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Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:49 pm
by Larry Mal

Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:17 pm
by Cpe4spd
"Oh no! Do you know what he' doing next ...Some sampling!"
Noel Gallagher :derp:

Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:32 pm
by øøøøøøø
Larry Mal wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:49 pm
I know what he's doing.
What a great track and video. I had never seen the video before!

Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:39 pm
by Telliot
øøøøøøø wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:32 pm
Larry Mal wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:49 pm
I know what he's doing.
What a great track and video. I had never seen the video before!
Seriously great. ❤️

Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:27 am
by Jaguar018
@telliot, Larry just threw down the gauntlet. Let's hear your Earth, Wind and Fire cover album. 8) :ph34r:

Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:31 am
by Telliot
StevenO wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:26 am
What's your plan for the vocoder? As a replacement for standard vocals? To compliment and/or support standard vocals? Or do you want them to be treated/listened to like one would a non-verbal instrument, like a clarinet or flute or other?
I’m using the Vocoder as more of a textural treatment in the choruses, more than anything. I wanted to try something that made me uncomfortable, which worked, but I ended up liking it more than I thought I would. I mean, it’s no EW&F, but that’s a pinnacle I’ll never reach.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DrQuasar wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:59 am
When do we get to hear the track? I always enjoy your stuff.
Cheers!

This is my latest mix. No idea if it’s any good — I’ve lost all objectivity at this point. :D

Anyway, hope you enjoy it.

Further Into You

Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:56 am
by Larry Mal
I think it sounds great! Good song, great mix, Todd. Good show!

Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:48 am
by Telliot
Thanks, Larry! 8)

Re: MIXING ADVICE NEEDED : VOCODERS?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:39 am
by chrisrnps
That sounds great!

Re: the original post: it’s not you, it actually is pretty difficult to get a vocoder sound to sit in a mix like that, particularly with most plug-in vocoders, and particularly with a pre-recorded vocal track - it’s much easier to “perform” the vocal input while hearing its effect on the synth input in real time, which means a hardware vocoder or recording through the plugin “live” (which can be tricky.)

Tips: “speaking” the vocal input part rather than singing it, and don’t be afraid to get weird with enunciation and diction - you’re going for the formant / EQ / spectrum of the sound, the pitch is nearly irrelevant. The sound used for the “synth” part is also very important - having something full-range, bright, and unfiltered (like a sawtooth synth sound or string machine sound) usually works well.

And don’t forget to play with sources that aren’t vocal / synth! Using a drum part to “vocode” a synth, guitar, white noise, or other part can also be cool.