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CIJ or classic 60's jazzmaster

Postby alex_philby » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:19 am

Hello everyone, I'm new here so I hope this is the right place to post.

I'm the owner of a VM squier jazzmaster for a few years now and I'd like to upgrade to something better. I have to chose for my next purchase between a new classic 60's and a second hand CIJ jazzmaster. The pickups on the CIJ have been replaced for AVRI 65 pickups and staytrem bridge is installed. New classic 60's is at 960€ and CIJ is at 700€ (1€=$0.9).
I believe hardware quality is about the same as are necks profiles. So I'm wondering if electronics, or anything else could make one guitar better than the other ?
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Re: CIJ or classic 60's jazzmaster

Postby JazzmanLDG » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:43 am

As far as quality of the electronics etc go, CIJ aren't bad but it is fairly standard to upgrade to CTS pots and switchcraft jack and switch. The fact that it comes with a Staytrem and better pickups is pretty good. They are very well made guitars.
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Re: CIJ or classic 60's jazzmaster

Postby alex_philby » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:01 am

JazzmanLDG wrote:As far as quality of the electronics etc go, CIJ aren't bad but it is fairly standard to upgrade to CTS pots and switchcraft jack and switch. The fact that it comes with a Staytrem and better pickups is pretty good. They are very well made guitars.


Ok thanks. Do you recommend the same electronics upgrade on the classic 60's ? I also have no idea what it would cost to make such changes. If it's not expensive, I guess the CIJ might be the best option considering it's selling for 250 euros less than the classic 60's.
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Re: CIJ or classic 60's jazzmaster

Postby thedude99 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:32 pm

The 60's Laquer Jazzmaster has the same AV65 pickups.

As far as the electronics - I think the 60's laquer has better quality stuff I believe, but does not over think that. It has no bearing on sound.

I had the stock electronics in my CIJ for years, I eventually replaced them when a pot died on me. Didn't make much of a difference

Nitro vs poly finish is the other big difference- if that matters to you
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Re: CIJ or classic 60's jazzmaster

Postby JazzmanLDG » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:16 pm

My CIJ was fine for years until the three way switch crapped out and the jack started to cut out around the same time, thus the change of parts.
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Re: CIJ or classic 60's jazzmaster

Postby spacecadet » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:14 am

I'd probably go for the Classic 60's, just because I prefer the feel of nitro (I'm not someone who thinks sound is much at all affected, but feel is).

Switching out all the electronics is pretty reasonable if you do go with the CIJ - there's a guy selling pre-made wiring harnesses on Ebay right now for $68. These just drop in for the most part, although you do need to enlarge the holes for the pots in a CIJ pickguard a little bit.

Here's what I'm looking at: http://www.ebay.com/itm/REPRO-UPGRADE-Fender-Jazzmaster-Wiring-Harness-Orange-Drop-Capacitor-Version-/112136750333?hash=item1a1bdf04fd:g:iLsAAMXQNo5TXoRc

He's got a slightly more expensive one that's the one I bought a while ago, which has cloth wiring and PIO caps: http://www.ebay.com/itm/FENDER-Jazzmaster-Wiring-Harness-VINTAGE-CORRECT-22GA-COLOR-CLOTH-WIRE-PIO-Caps-/122454548039?hash=item1c82dc1e47:g:JBYAAOxyQyJRkoKA

I personally think Japanese-made guitars are a little more consistent than Mexican ones in terms of build quality, but YMMV. That would probably be the main reason I'd consider the CIJ; otherwise I think the Classic 60's would be the definite better buy. But the CIJ's do look and feel a bit more plasticky.
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Re: CIJ or classic 60's jazzmaster

Postby mbene085 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:17 am

Everything that has been said here is true. They're just different. Personally, on brand new guitars, I prefer poly, because I like them to stay "new". My '94 MIJ jag looks newer than many 2 year old nitro AV65s I've encountered. If you want your new guitar to show wear, and/or prefer the feel (I do like that nitro feel, as well), then go with the lacquer (if you like the colour). If you want something with a more durable finish, the MIJs are fantastic quality and consistency.
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