Gwenno

[shadowplay]

Is it at all like Guns N'Roses?

More like Howitzers and Roses, like GnR turned up to eleven; more chaps, more bandannas, more cycling shorts, seriously stove pipe hats, more sexism, more racism, more ism's of all kinds and that includes jism, more homophobia, more real man stuff, jeans that aren't just ripped they are shredded, more solos, more tattoos, more bleach, bigger paunches, two cigarettes hanging out of the rhythm guitarists mouth, full on gang of robots sexually assaulting a woman on the sleeve and an absolute refusal to change it for Pussy Wal Mart.

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That sounds like the kind of music that would keep homosexual tendencies at bay for a little while! Sign me up!

If you feel those urges my Hard Rock Church offers Synthesiser Conversion Therapy that will banish any non-traditional musical thoughts you might be having. By the end of the first session you'll be riffin' the air along to 'Givin the Dog a Bone', free from any desire to listen to Communist pussy music and happy you finally understand traditional gender roles.

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[salty]

Thanks for sharing this! I like it. I am generally a guitar front kind of person, but I really like the way the guitar is not out front and is still super interesting.

[salty]

I actually looked up broadcast as well since I had not heard them before.

I listened to this first and loved it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5ZJ-N750Bk

There are parts where it totally reminds me of the 60's band United States of America, but different of course, but it led my brain there. So then I had to dig it up on you tube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0cuX0WSdhg

[shadowplay]

^^^

Good ear, United States of Anerica were one of the central Broadcast touchstones.

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[salty]

Ha-ha.. Thanks! I like it a lot...not sure how I missed them in the past, especially since Jeremy Barnes drummed for them for a while. Love hearing new stuff I like though! Doesn't matter if it is new or not, because it is new to me.

[blacktiger]

Listened to the bonus disc today, and it's also great. This is easily my favorite record of 2015.

[shadowplay]

Thanks for sharing this! I like it. I am generally a guitar front kind of person, but I really like the way the guitar is not out front and is still super interesting.

A record that's out his year that has guitar riding mostly up front that I adore is Sun and Violence by Heroin In Tahiti. I did a thread on it a while back.

Apologies for the derailment...AGAIN...but I think Blacktiger might like it too.

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[mynameisjonas]

The Pipettes make me physically sick, so this is a very nice surprise (plus, I've always had a thing for music sung in welsh)

[Jaguar018]

Ha-ha.. Thanks! I like it a lot...not sure how I missed them in the past, especially since Jeremy Barnes drummed for them for a while. Love hearing new stuff I like though! Doesn't matter if it is new or not, because it is new to me.

I don't even know what I would do with myself if I was hearing Broadcast for the first time in 2015 as they are, and have been one of my favorite bands since 1995. I hope you dig in.

This thread brings up strange conflicts of my petty subjective musical tendencies. This lady's Pipettes legacy, to me, taints her new material. I realize it's bullshit. I'm going to fight through it. I also find the band name "Heroin in Tahiti" fundamentally stupid and off-putting. Ugh. Why do I have be such a crank?

[blacktiger]

I can be a picky fuck about little things too, but I love this record so much that I just don't care if it's all manufactured. Then again, I also love The Monkees and KISS.

[shadowplay]

This thread brings up strange conflicts of my petty subjective musical tendencies. This lady's Pipettes legacy, to me, taints her new material. I realize it's bullshit. I'm going to fight through it. I also find the band name "Heroin in Tahiti" fundamentally stupid and off-putting. Ugh. Why do I have be such a crank?

I don't care about band names (ewww Smegma!) or what bands folk were in previously, in fact I quite like those come back from the dead stories like Clint Mansell being in the heinous PWEI and then going off to Hollywood and becoming Mr OST Esq. Heroin in Tahiti is sub optimal I suppose but is it worse than OSG favourites Guns N Roses? (or even My Bloody Valentine)

There was an article on Gwenno in 'The Guide' magazine supplement to Saturdays Guardian, covering her inspirations drawn from her mothers Socialist Street Choir (possibly a long lost Fall song), the book that the Album is inspired by (dystopian future robots enslave the human race but cannot enslave Welsh speakers because they cannot penetrate their thoughts) and reconnecting with the Welsh Language. It's not up online sadly. The background to the album and the concept aspect is very reminiscent of Jane Weaver's The Silver Globe which draws on Andrzej Żuławski's film On the Silver Globe, another political Sci-fi source and also prompts reminders of that great hauntological and retrofuturist pop source inspiration, Alan Garners The Owl Service.

I'd contest any suggestion that this is manufactured (and even if it was I don't care), firstly I'd very much doubt anyone would even mention this if she was male and secondly folks tastes change over time and change is good and finally I think it's more like there's a wider interest in this sort of music.

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[Jaguar018]

I'd contest any suggestion that this is manufactured (and even if it was I don't care), firstly I'd very much doubt anyone would even mention this if she was male and secondly folks tastes change over time and change is good and finally I think it's more like there's a wider interest in this sort of music.

Fair point re: the manufactured/potential sexist context. I'd like to think that if there was some dude that was in a 60s doo-wop band or some other annoying syrupy retro-pop deal and he jumped over to folk-prog-psyche ballads I would find it a bit suspect. I also agree that if it pushes the right sonic buttons that tends to nullify other concerns. I find most articles about artists and their inspirations to be tiresome these days.

I know Shadowplay, Blacktiger, me, and a few others still feel a void of sorts that was left with the unfortunate end of Broadcast. It is really cool and interesting to hear how we personally interpreted their songs and distilled them into our own tastes as we search for new bands and sounds that evolve from similar places.

[shadowplay]

I'd contest any suggestion that this is manufactured (and even if it was I don't care), firstly I'd very much doubt anyone would even mention this if she was male and secondly folks tastes change over time and change is good and finally I think it's more like there's a wider interest in this sort of music.

Fair point re: the manufactured/potential sexist context. I'd like to think that if there was some dude that was in a 60s doo-wop band or some other annoying syrupy retro-pop deal and he jumped over to folk-prog-psyche ballads I would find it a bit suspect. I also agree that if it pushes the right sonic buttons that tends to nullify other concerns. I find most articles about artists and their inspirations to be tiresome these days.

I know Shadowplay, Blacktiger, me, and a few others still feel a void of sorts that was left with the unfortunate end of Broadcast. It is really cool and interesting to hear how we personally interpreted their songs and distilled them into our own tastes as we search for new bands and sounds that evolve from similar places.

Fair enough.

I think Trish's death was horrible and it's sad we won't ever hear brand new songs from her but at the same time I'd argue that there's a whole mass of intersecting retrofuturist and hauntological genres and even several labels which were either inspired by her, nurtured by her aesthetic, gained traction due to changing tastes arguably sown by her or started by cadres and kindred spirits. Quite a legacy.

btw do you not like Death and Vanilla? I'm very much looking fwd to seeing them next month.

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[shadowplay]

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[Jaguar018]

I think Trish's death was horrible and it's sad we won't ever hear brand new songs from her but at the same time I'd argue that there's a whole mass of intersecting retrofuturist and hauntological genres and even several labels which were either inspired by her, nurtured by her aesthetic, gained traction due to changing tastes arguably sown by her or started by cadres and kindred spirits. Quite a legacy.

I am very much happy with the amount of 'retrofuturist and hauntological' groups out there that occupy similar sonic places that Broadcast nurtured. A number of GhostBox recordings get plenty of play in stately Jaguar018 Manor-- and in our cars. I'm not wasting my time looking for a drop-in Broadcast clone, but I am chasing that consistent high they provided-- sort of a "I know it when I hear it" kind of thing.

btw do you not like Death and Vanilla? I'm very much looking fwd to seeing them next month.

I do like them. I got their recent album and quickly managed to forget about them, so I'm circling back.

I'm going to get Gwenno and give it a chance to soak in.