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Re: 7 Seconds

Post by stevejamsecono » Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:29 pm

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This is a wild one, but does anybody know what kind of guitar and amp they use for their early stuff like Skins Brains and Guts? Same for Minor Threat - anyone know what they used? I absolutely love their sound so I've always been curious. These two bands have some of the best sounding mixes of all classic punk rock in my opinion. I also love Fang's Landshark, that guitar is massive too. Reagan Youth's first press had a great mix (fuck that New Red Archives cymbal-less remix!), also LA's Wasted Youth's Reagan's In is basically a perfect punk mix.

In my opinion punk bands don't sound very punk without the guitar and cymbals foregrounded in the mix.
No idea re: 7 Seconds, but Minor Threat is pretty easy. Lyle used a late 70s LP Standard and a Marshall 2204 Master Volume head with an era-appropriate 4x12 cab or two. Less gain than you'd think -- he was going for articulation rather than fuzz. When Brian switched to guitar, he rocked similarly (various Gibsons -- either LP Deluxe with Dimarzios or SG) on an identical amp setup. He swapped over to the JCM 800 (same guts, updated cosmentics) circa Dag Nasty.
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Re: 7 Seconds

Post by panoramic » Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:23 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fuh2-9Bql4
7 seconds in 85

Typically they used an SG or LP goldtop and the amp is marshall-y (looks like a park head). They also use a fuzz on the early stuff. They had a busted up looking oly strat on a few of the videos I have seen. The later stuff is all marshalls and gibsons
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Re: 7 Seconds

Post by DeathJag » Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:30 am

Hey wow thanks for the replies folks! Much appreciated. I must admit I've barely even held a Gibson, Epiphone, Guild, or anything compared to a Fender. But I love their sound so this is super helpful. One of these days I may try to get a vintage Marshall. I already want a vintage AC30. Dammit.

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Re: 7 Seconds

Post by panoramic » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:00 am

DeathJag wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:30 am
Hey wow thanks for the replies folks! Much appreciated. I must admit I've barely even held a Gibson, Epiphone, Guild, or anything compared to a Fender. But I love their sound so this is super helpful. One of these days I may try to get a vintage Marshall. I already want a vintage AC30. Dammit.
I bet you could get this same sound with the right pedals. I just dialed in a really nice late husker du/sugar tone with my Jag and EQD Dunes the other night that I plan to use on most of my newer material I've been writing. I'd say if you use a rat with the distortion up and the filter at like 2pm you'd get close to a 7 Seconds tone with any guitar using humbuckers.
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Re: 7 Seconds

Post by DeathJag » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:34 am

panoramic wrote:
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if you use a rat with the distortion up and the filter at like 2pm you'd get close to a 7 Seconds tone with any guitar using humbuckers.
Yeah! Thanks! I've got an 80s Hondo Longhorn copy guitar with a single humbucker that only has two wires coming out of it. Using an 80s DS-1 into a '72 Twin with a single 15" speaker, it sounds awesomely gnarly, comparable to those tones. I do wanna see what an old Rat sounds like also. "Which Rat?" haha!

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Re: 7 Seconds

Post by panoramic » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:42 am

DeathJag wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:34 am
panoramic wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:00 am
if you use a rat with the distortion up and the filter at like 2pm you'd get close to a 7 Seconds tone with any guitar using humbuckers.
Yeah! Thanks! I've got an 80s Hondo Longhorn copy guitar with a single humbucker that only has two wires coming out of it. Using an 80s DS-1 into a '72 Twin with a single 15" speaker, it sounds awesomely gnarly, comparable to those tones. I do wanna see what an old Rat sounds like also. "Which Rat?" haha!
I have a 91 turbo rat, an 86 small box and a newer op07 version from 2011. I think the newer version (cheap AF) would get you there, it lacks clarity when you dial up the OD and that is sort of what happens on the 7 seconds stuff
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Re: 7 Seconds

Post by DeathJag » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:09 am

panoramic wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:42 am
I think the newer version (cheap AF) would get you there, it lacks clarity when you dial up the OD and that is sort of what happens on the 7 seconds stuff
Thank you for the thought! I was considering getting one to try out because they're so cheap. However, if the older ones sound better, then I don't want to bother with a new one. All of this must wait until I work again so at the moment it's DS-1 all day.

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Re: 7 Seconds

Post by budda12ax7 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:02 pm

Love Dag Nasty.....A toss up between Shawn or Dave....I guess Dave has the definitive "Can I Say" version, but love the Shaw versions.....never really heard the Peter versions though.

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