Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

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Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by northern_dirt » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:25 am

Is there such a thingy?

I hear a few tunes, where it sounds like the trem is changing in intensity.. (JAMC and SPACEMAN 3)..

Or is it the drugs?
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by staytuned » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:47 am

you could always try the third hand!

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=150146

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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by Brock the Mod » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:01 pm

Wow, that helps out!!!
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by northern_dirt » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:05 pm

staytuned wrote: you could always try the third hand!

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=150146
Yes ive seen this, and heard a lot of people hates it..

Just wondering if anyone knows of any trems that actually have an expression option.
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by shadowplay » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:24 pm

Roger mayer voodoo vibe has an expression pedal connection.  It's a fantastic (pricey even for a three in one vib/trem/chorus) pedal, that does modern and innovative as well as the expected retro tones.
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by Loomer » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:26 pm

I know that the "Opto Trem" and "Bias Trem"  models on Line 6's MM4 respond to input intensity, meaning the harder you strum or pick, the faster the tremolo rate. I assume that's basically what you've heard on those recordings.

Sorry to not answer the question you asked; just trying to keep a brotha informed.  ;)

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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by northern_dirt » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:30 pm

shadowplay wrote: Roger mayer voodoo vibe has an expression pedal connection.  It's a fantastic (pricey even for a three in one vib/trem/chorus) pedal, that does modern and innovative as well as the expected retro tones.
I will need to check er out..
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by northern_dirt » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:31 pm

Loomer wrote: I know that the "Opto Trem" and "Bias Trem"  models on Line 6's MM4 respond to input intensity, meaning the harder you strum or pick, the faster the tremolo rate. I assume that's basically what you've heard on those recordings.

Sorry to not answer the question you asked; just trying to keep a brotha informed.  ;)

Don't think it was that, unless they compressesd the signal after the trem, as it doenst seem to be any harder
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by Loomer » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:42 pm

northern_dirt wrote:
Don't think it was that, unless they compressesd the signal after the trem, as it doenst seem to be any harder
Maybe you're right. It was really sensitive, tho. I remember the effect being pretty varied by small changes in attack. If you get a chance, check it out sometime.

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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by fuzzjunkie » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:12 pm

I would suspect that most of the Spacemen 3 trem sounds were from manually changing the speed on the amps and keyboards that they used.

For the at least one JAMC record (Munki) I know that a Lovetone Wobulator was used:

http://www.lovetone.com/wobulator.html

I've used a Roger Mayer Voodoo Vibe for 10 years now and as Shadowplay mentioned, there are expression pedal jacks (send and receive) built in. I use an Ernie Ball volume pedal to control the speed change. There is a smaller, cheaper version available now, but the expression parameter, along with the symmetry a few other controls were left off.
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by northern_dirt » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:24 pm

fuzzjunkie wrote: I would suspect that most of the Spacemen 3 trem sounds were from manually changing the speed on the amps and keyboards that they used.

For the at least one JAMC record (Munki) I know that a Lovetone Wobulator was used:

http://www.lovetone.com/wobulator.html

I've used a Roger Mayer Voodoo Vibe for 10 years now and as Shadowplay mentioned, there are expression pedal jacks (send and receive) built in. I use an Ernie Ball volume pedal to control the speed change. There is a smaller, cheaper version available now, but the expression parameter, along with the symmetry a few other controls were left off.

the spacemen 3 trem changes, yeah I figured they were doing it by hand but was hoping not.

I think the JAMC song im thinking of is off either barbed wire kisses or the sound of speed..
Which would make the line 6 idea impossible.. shit, ill figure out which albumn tonight..
They were prolly doing it by hand too.. pff.. its such a cool effect, it should be standard on
trems.. just like it should be a standard option on all delay pedals..
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by northern_dirt » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:32 pm

I guess theres these

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=150156

I guess I could use a boss RT-20 or SL-20 as a tremolo too..
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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by phibes » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:42 pm

There's an amazing article on geofx explaining how to do it yourself.  You can really add an expression pedal to any pot on any effect if you want.  And it's really fucking easy.  I'll post the article when I have some more time to dig it up.  All the tremolos I've tried with the expression pedal built with it sounded pretty lame.  Adding one to your favorite tremolo is the way to go.

Adding expression pedals to analog delays is beyond sex.

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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by thingsthatfly » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:07 pm

not quite the same thing, but a tremolo probe, I know effrrim from a silver mount zion uses one, on the track more action less tears I think you can hear the tremolo changing and I can only guess he is using it

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Re: Trem pedal with expression pedal input?

Post by aen » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:35 pm

I'm working on it!
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