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Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:29 pm
by jovima69
Hey all,

Saw an IG post today from Boss USA regarding a Waza Fuzz, perhaps an FZ-2? I am excited, even though the Behringer SF-300 nails the FZ-2 tone to my ears... Love the classics.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:34 am
by bubba899
Yeah, looks like they're doing a new circuit, new to them at least, all together. Based on other pics on their social it's a three transistor germanium fuzz. Hopefully there's something in it that set's it apart from the others. Definitely interesting. I've got the FZ-2 and FZ-3 and will be excited to see what they come up with! You're right about the Behringer, I've got both and they're practically identical.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:44 am
by bubba899
Well, wasn't expecting this!

https://www.boss.info/uk/products/tb-2w/

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A tiny bit disappointed they didn't do something a bit more unique to them, but also very into the idea of a legit MkII in a boss enclosure.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:16 am
by Trout
Very unexpected, but I'm intrigued. Any sound clips yet?

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:40 am
by Nick and the Noise
Looks cool, love that hammered gray finish. Interesting idea to have a switch for the voltage. If this is a limited edition, it will be sold out in no time because of all those BOSS completists. My Fulltone Soul Bender which is a MKIII variant is my favourite fuzz. But for me, I don't think I also need a MKII - I know it sounds different but I'd probably miss the tone knob.

I don't like that these limited production runs are now a thing, but I guess that's the evolution of the market. I saw those Fulltone Ranger limited edition OC75 units came with a certificate in a carton tube signed by Mike Fuller. I mean come on, seriously? :fp:

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:58 am
by bubba899
Trout wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:16 am
Very unexpected, but I'm intrigued. Any sound clips yet?
Nothing yet, but they're doing a Boss talks video tomorrow I believe so Imagine something will appear then.
Nick and the Noise wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:40 am
Looks cool, love that hammered gray finish. Interesting idea to have a switch for the voltage. If this is a limited edition, it will be sold out in no time because of all those BOSS completists. My Fulltone Soul Bender which is a MKIII variant is my favourite fuzz. But for me, I don't think I also need a MKII - I know it sounds different but I'd probably miss the tone knob.

I don't like that these limited production runs are now a thing, but I guess that's the evolution of the market. I saw those Fulltone Ranger limited edition OC75 units came with a certificate in a carton tube signed by Mike Fuller. I mean come on, seriously? :fp:
Yeah it's frustrating. They say that it's limited because of the components, but it can't have escaped them they can charge what they like for a limited run. Will have to see how it's priced, but I'm not holding out much hope of snagging one.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:26 am
by Embenny
This is a smart move, the overlap of BOSS fans and Tone Bender fans ensures this will easily sell however many they care to produce. The hammered finish is a nice touch.

Is this the first time they've made a clone of another company's famous design? I'm no BOSS historian, but I was under the impression that they've always designed their own circuits.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:48 am
by Shadoweclipse13
mbene085 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:26 am
This is a smart move, the overlap of BOSS fans and Tone Bender fans ensures this will easily sell however many they care to produce. The hammered finish is a nice touch.

Is this the first time they've made a clone of another company's famous design? I'm no BOSS historian, but I was under the impression that they've always designed their own circuits.
I thought they always had something like clones, but were really discreet about it. I always thought that the DS-1 was a RAT or a muff, Blues Driver was based on the Tube Driver.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:25 am
by jorri
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:48 am
mbene085 wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:26 am
This is a smart move, the overlap of BOSS fans and Tone Bender fans ensures this will easily sell however many they care to produce. The hammered finish is a nice touch.

Is this the first time they've made a clone of another company's famous design? I'm no BOSS historian, but I was under the impression that they've always designed their own circuits.
I thought they always had something like clones, but were really discreet about it. I always thought that the DS-1 was a RAT or a muff, Blues Driver was based on the Tube Driver.
One is a distortion and the other is an overdrive...beyond that these are not clones.
And perhaps a Rat is actually closer to the tubescreamer schematically -perhaps.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 am
by shoule79
I think they missed the boat here by not doing the FZ-2w. Its a fuzz they produced that is in high demand now. Seems like it would have been a no-brainer.

On the other hand, I pitched my FZ-2 as soon as prices got out of hand, and don't miss it, and I don't have a Tone Bender.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:19 am
by peterherman
Interesting that they repeatedly refer to it as a "sonic recreation". Can't wait for the YouTubers and internet EEs to freak out that this can't possibly sound like a Tone Bender because it's got a buffer. Or a different switch. Or 3 different resistors. Or runs on a power supply. Or...

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:47 pm
by Veitchy
Not gonna lie, I was kinda looking forward to getting a FZ-2 without having to pay vintage prices. This is still cool though and I'm interested in hearing some sound clips.

Does this mean that Roland owns the rights to Tone Benders/Sola Sound, or is this a 'collaboration'?
Edit: a cursory search revealed that it's a collaboration.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:54 pm
by soggy mittens
WTF

This is hilarious, are they for real? *checks to see if the date is the 1st of April*. But seriously I thought Waza Craft were meant to be pedals they'd already released with a new custom mode. This is more like an Angry Driver collab kinda deal. c-c-c-combo breaker.

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:11 pm
by Jorix

Re: Boss Waza Fuzz on the way

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:25 pm
by Shadoweclipse13
That sounds better than I was expecting. I've never played an early-era Tone Bender circuit to compare, but I like it!