Of course the sound quality of the effects themselves are great, and the pedal makers obviously put in a lot of thought and attention to these pedals when they're designing them. But ironically, the intricately designed nature of these new pedals are precisely what make them sound so boring and instantly recognizable in a bad way. Combining pedals is very much a part of sound design, and by divorcing the player from that process, it also eliminates the guitarist's personality from the sound.
For example, the only compelling use of shimmer delay/reverb effect I personally heard was from this performance of Videotape by Radiohead.
Instead of that sound being a 'shimmer reverb in a box', it's a combination of some fairly standard delay pedals, clever use of a wah pedal, some technique and a whammy pedal. It sounds unique, t doesn't instantly pull you out of the song because you recognized that sound coming from a Chase Bliss/Strymon etc. and more importantly the guitarist's personality shines through.
As for things like a RAT, CE-3 and the like being recognizable, effects like distortion, plate/hall reverbs, chorus etc. are simple enough that even if the effect is recognizable, as a listener you concentrate more on the guitarist's playing instead of thinking 'Oh, he's playing a Tele through a RAT'.
I do think this is probably something which would only bother people who actually play guitar/write music though, most listeners who aren't gearheads probably wouldn't notice lol. Also I'm not really one to talk since I have been wanting to get one these pedals, seems like they'd be fun to play with or be a useful performance tool. Probably wouldn't use them when I'm recording some music though
This is a tangent, but it's one of the reasons why I find ambient and shoegaze guitar videos as boring and pointless as the dreaded blooz riff demos. They all sound so cookie cutter because instead of the player doing something interesting and creative with the pedals they have, a lot of it is just strumming a Cmaj7 with a $400 delay pedal with built in chorus, pitchshifting and calling it a day. It's the guitar equivalent of 'Lofi hip hop beats to study to'. It was cool five years ago, it had it's time and now I can't wait for it to finally die.
I dunno, James Blake does a lot of cool stuff with autotune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXM3uz1bjMmbene085 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:04 amHonestly, its popular usage should have peaked ND died with Cher. For a high-profile musician to use something cutting-edge in a musical way in her 4th decade of topping charts was totally and completely reasonable. For it to become "the" sound plastered all over the place for another two decades has been excruciating.
Actually, all of its uses have been excruciating. It makes every song sound like yet another unbearable episode of Glee.
Back to the reverb. Nothing wrong with playing around with the flavour du jour, but it will definitely date things. Nothing wrong with that necessarily, as has been pointed out. The quality of music will always outlive the trends of production.