Electric Mistress fans?

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Re: Electric Mistress fans?

Post by HH1978 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:03 am

Checked their website, only US distribution :)

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Re: Electric Mistress fans?

Post by HH1978 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:03 am

meant :(

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Re: Electric Mistress fans?

Post by stevejamsecono » Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:44 am

s_mcsleazy wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:37 am
never been a flanger fan but i know an electric mistress was used on this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc7hMWdG3Pg
My recent mistress obsession has been because I've been going back down the Ruts rabbit hole. Paul Fox did some tasty stuff with his DEM.
If you're in a rut
You gotta get out of it, out of it, out of it, out of it, out of it.

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Re: Electric Mistress fans?

Post by chromewaves » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:43 am

The Retro-Sonic Flanger is a pretty solid repro of an 18V Electric Mistress in an MXR-sized box. Plus it has a level control!

https://www.retro-sonic.com/flanger

I like mine.

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Re: Electric Mistress fans?

Post by BlueSparkle » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:46 pm

Flangers are REALLY subjective.
There are certain nuances about the mistress that make them desirable and plenty that makes it a PITA to use on a board.

I have never found a 'quiet' one.
I have never found a 'loud' one.

By this I mean they are all noisy, and it is the inherent clock noise that you have to live with which makes it so nice sounding.

They are also really dead, in the signal chain. Every single one I have played has cut the signal by at least 4-6 db which is HUGE.

Eventually I gave up on finding a good one, also I had a lot of friends tell me they have had them and they are notoriously unreliable as well.

So I still wanted this holy grail, and my next choice was to investigate options. I started with a brand new MXR m117 flanger, quickly followed by a strymon Mobius, from that followed a vintage BF-1 boss, and eventually I realised that the reason none of them sounded the same or similar, was because of the BBD.
I started looking deeper into the whole BBD thing, maybe I could pillage a chip from some other old gear etc... but no.

By luck, there was a local ad for an original 1979 A/DA Flanger, which has the Reticon SAD1024 BBD. So I bought it, and took the gamble on another 40 year old pedal.
Not long after buying it, I realised that it was vastly different to the EHX. but in a GOOD way. the noise floor is gated. and adjustable. what a win.
ALL the clarity and none of the clock noise when you're not playing.
it has gain built in and all the usual flanging adjustments.

Then I experienced the unreliability. These original 70's flangers have a different Vreg and require a 24v centre + feed, with a 2.5mm jack, not too dissimilar to the old mistress.
but because I use a modular power setup (gigrig) I ordered a more useable-to-me 'custom shop' 9-24vdc 2.1mm centre neg adapter, and I changed the input on the pedal.

Part of this was also because I had some noise issues on the pedal and I tore it down to investigate further.
The board was full of 25vdc tag tantalum caps, which is not ideal, so a couple of orders to element14 and digikey and I had all the replacement components I needed to overhaul the board.

The result is actually impressive. the noise floor is even better, but more importantly, the transients are cleaner. So it was a worthwhile exercise.

Having said all this, I would not suggest that it is the "ideal" solution, the A/DA flanger does some very cool flanging things, and covers more extremes than the mistress, is easily as clear and crisp, but because it has such a huge range of adjustments and gain, the pedal gets used for more extreme stuff than I would otherwise use.

Then there is the cost. It's totally NOT worth it. Even though I got mine at a bargain by todays current listings, the time spent, plus the power adapter plus the cost of all the replacement caps, diodes, pots and other sundries, plus redoing the conformal coating made it a quite expensive investment.

Now the really sad thing - you can absolutely get about 95% there with the MXR m117 flanger. brand new, with warranty, much smaller (is 18v though) and be just as happy as EVH was when he used it.

Love a mistress, but as in life, you can't live with them easily. :derp: ;D
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