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Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:11 pm
by Shadoweclipse13
I like the sound, but I just realized, especially considering that I'd be interested in one for bass, that it doesn't have a blend knob...

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:37 pm
by sessylU
Probably a bit late to this, but my favourite bass overdrive has always been the Boss ODB-3. Sounds great and has a blend control.

Even better, it sounds immense on guitar. Crazy heavy and crazy detailed gain.

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:30 am
by somanytoys
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:11 pm
I like the sound, but I just realized, especially considering that I'd be interested in one for bass, that it doesn't have a blend knob...
Yeah, since I've started using compressors more effectively (than I had been), the blend knob has really become important to me. If it's not an extreme compressor, it's less of a big deal, but it's got to have a really nice sound on its own, or it needs some blend.

Sometimes it just needs some blend anyway, what the hell...

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:09 pm
by marqueemoon
Yeah, I’m all about the blend with my compressor.

Finally got to try the Vintage Microtubes at practice last night. Really pleased with it. Just gives the sound a subtle lift. There’s one song where a drop to a lower octave during a guitar solo-ish part and with a little extra hair on the bass there it sounds huge.

The one thing I don’t love is the switching. It’s quiet and reliable, but it’s hard to get the timing right.

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:28 pm
by Shadoweclipse13
somanytoys wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:30 am
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:11 pm
I like the sound, but I just realized, especially considering that I'd be interested in one for bass, that it doesn't have a blend knob...
Yeah, since I've started using compressors more effectively (than I had been), the blend knob has really become important to me. If it's not an extreme compressor, it's less of a big deal, but it's got to have a really nice sound on its own, or it needs some blend.

Sometimes it just needs some blend anyway, what the hell...
Agreed. It took me a LONG time to really get into using compressors, and longer still to use them correctly. It's funny, but the only one I've ever had with a blend is my current guitar board compressor.

marqueemoon wrote: The one thing I don’t love is the switching. It’s quiet and reliable, but it’s hard to get the timing right.
Is it a relay-based switch? Is there lag?

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:36 pm
by marqueemoon
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:28 pm
somanytoys wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:30 am
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:11 pm
I like the sound, but I just realized, especially considering that I'd be interested in one for bass, that it doesn't have a blend knob...
Yeah, since I've started using compressors more effectively (than I had been), the blend knob has really become important to me. If it's not an extreme compressor, it's less of a big deal, but it's got to have a really nice sound on its own, or it needs some blend.

Sometimes it just needs some blend anyway, what the hell...
Agreed. It took me a LONG time to really get into using compressors, and longer still to use them correctly. It's funny, but the only one I've ever had with a blend is my current guitar board compressor.


[quote=marqueemoon post_id=1586194 .
The one thing I don’t love is the switching. It’s quiet and reliable, but it’s hard to get the timing right.
Is it a relay-based switch? Is there lag?
[/quote]

Yes and yes.

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:01 pm
by Shadoweclipse13
Interesting. I found a local shop that's got Darkglass stuff. I might go try out a Vintage Ultra this weekend. I'm curious if that's got the lag as well.

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:59 pm
by somanytoys
I'm not great at timing with switches (soft or hard switches), which is why I couldn't operate my Dittos in time worth a shit and sold them.

Nice it hear it's working out sound-wise, though.

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:52 am
by wingnutkj
Recently I've been using a Caline CP-18 Orange Burst for drive. Dirt cheap, and gives me the tone I want (kind of Lou Barlow).

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:20 pm
by somanytoys
I bought a used reverb pedal of theirs a while back for an ex-girlfriend. Can’t remember the name of it.

It wasn’t incredible, but it was pretty impressive for such an inexpensive pedal. $25 used...

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:18 am
by Shadoweclipse13
I have a sort of related question that I didn't feel needed its own thread for: those of you guys who specifically use one of the Darkglass Ultra V2's (Alpha-Omega Ultra, Vintage Ultra, or B7K Ultra), do you use the cab sim mode much? I'm really interested in a Vintage Ultra, but I found some reviews about extra noise from the cab sim, and am not sure I'd use it that much anyways. Plus, I found a good deal on a V1 (no headphone jack or cab sim per Darkglass) for a lot less than a V2.

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:12 am
by marqueemoon
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:18 am
I have a sort of related question that I didn't feel needed its own thread for: those of you guys who specifically use one of the Darkglass Ultra V2's (Alpha-Omega Ultra, Vintage Ultra, or B7K Ultra), do you use the cab sim mode much? I'm really interested in a Vintage Ultra, but I found some reviews about extra noise from the cab sim, and am not sure I'd use it that much anyways. Plus, I found a good deal on a V1 (no headphone jack or cab sim per Darkglass) for a lot less than a V2.
I’d personally rather use a software vs. hardware amp sim for bass for recording.

Live, people who run sound tend to insist on providing their own DI. That’s been my experience anyway.

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:03 pm
by Shadoweclipse13
marqueemoon wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:12 am
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:18 am
I have a sort of related question that I didn't feel needed its own thread for: those of you guys who specifically use one of the Darkglass Ultra V2's (Alpha-Omega Ultra, Vintage Ultra, or B7K Ultra), do you use the cab sim mode much? I'm really interested in a Vintage Ultra, but I found some reviews about extra noise from the cab sim, and am not sure I'd use it that much anyways. Plus, I found a good deal on a V1 (no headphone jack or cab sim per Darkglass) for a lot less than a V2.
I’d personally rather use a software vs. hardware amp sim for bass for recording.

Live, people who run sound tend to insist on providing their own DI. That’s been my experience anyway.
Good to know! I finally found a local shop that has one in stock, so I might be able to try it. I prefer simple and don't like messing with hidden features and computerized parameters, so I likely wouldn't use it anyways. Sounds like I should be on the hunt for a V1 then. Thanks MarqueeMoon!

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:49 am
by somanytoys
Outside of a live situation, the main thing I use my cab sim on the VT DI is going into the pa instead of a bass amp at home. But I’ve also jacked right into the pa using other pedals, and it’s fine.

I really find it to be less of a big deal on bass. You can usually manage get a good sound with bass direct, but I think guitar usually needs that amp & speaker sound to help round things out. Direct guitar sounds can be cool, but I don’t think I’d want to do a lot of it.

Just my thoughts. I don’t think you’d really miss the cab sim or the headphone jack anyway, as long as you love the pedal.

Re: Recommend me a bass overdrive please.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:00 pm
by marqueemoon
somanytoys wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:49 am
Outside of a live situation, the main thing I use my cab sim on the VT DI is going into the pa instead of a bass amp at home. But I’ve also jacked right into the pa using other pedals, and it’s fine.

I really find it to be less of a big deal on bass. You can usually manage get a good sound with bass direct, but I think guitar usually needs that amp & speaker sound to help round things out. Direct guitar sounds can be cool, but I don’t think I’d want to do a lot of it.

Just my thoughts. I don’t think you’d really miss the cab sim or the headphone jack anyway, as long as you love the pedal.
Absolutely agree.

...and to add to what I said earlier what is the best bass sound on a recording depends on the context. Sometimes you don’t know what the right bass tone is for a song until you start mixing. Plugin amp sims give you more flexibility at this stage.

I’m a strong believer in printing guitar sounds and making those decisions early, but bass is a different story.