Pedalboard Malaise

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by somanytoys » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am

Maggieo wrote:
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I know many folks get inspired by the sounds they get from effects and it leads to new musical ideas. It usually doesn’t work that way for me. I’ve got to strip that stuff away when writing or I’ll just end up pointlessly noodling.
My life consists mostly of pointless noodling at this point. :mellow: That is probably where most of my malaise is coming from. Playing with a purpose, whether it's with or without effects, is where the best part of playing music is.

Collecting gear can be really fun. The aesthetics of gear, for some of us-- including me-- can be entrancing. But I feel like I am a little burnt out. Planning/commissioning custom builds and rehousings just feels a little empty.

I feel like I am not the only one on here that has gone through the looking glass/rabbit hole/whatever and come out the other side. Now I am realizing what I need and don't need to be a good player and have fun. I'm tired of chasing that effects dragon's tail that is never really going to get caught.
I'm just coming out of a Guitar-Cord-Amp phase and rediscovering how much fun pedals are, so I reckon this sort of stuff is cyclical. Like Cylons. :ph34r:
This is really how it is, it depends on when someone gets into chasing the magic dragon tail (then too, how long they've been at it), and how the pedals are used. They can help to be creative, or they can become a crutch, maybe something to hide behind or to use as an excuse to tool around with rather than try to write, if that' s the main goal - whether consciously or not.

I do feel like all of this is exactly cyclical, for almost anyone and with anything, but probably especially artists/musicians. But as intense as the chasing of the dragon trail can get, with all the gas and excitement for the newer, more powerful, better sounding, prettiest pedals, the comedown can be just as intense. I think that most musicians tend to be more introspective than a lot of other large groups of people tend to be (artists' nature and all that), so we would probably tend to be some of the first to look around and start reassessing where we're at, what exactly we're doing, especially in an expressive vs material way. And that's good, hopefully it keeps the materialism in check and allows more expressive. This can be about acquisitions, or because of success, complacency...whatever.

My point is to always try to find my medium point in the pendulum swing, and try not to go too overboard on either side. But you do have to take the ride if you buy the ticket, see where it goes, turn it back if it's going too far. But you have to figure out where those points are to find a midpoint.

But I'm here to tell ya, that isn't how it worked out for me in the pedal/amp/accessory department over the years. I have slowed down, though. I guess I could've easily gone much more overboard, but I also wasn't exactly the picture of restraint, either. I was diligent and did my research, and I have loved almost everything I bought, almost too much. Now I'm trying to stop chasing and start soaking.
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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:23 pm

Jaguar018 wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:21 am
I feel like I am not the only one on here that has gone through the looking glass/rabbit hole/whatever and come out the other side. Now I am realizing what I need and don't need to be a good player and have fun. I'm tired of chasing that effects dragon's tail that is never really going to get caught.
You're definitely not. I know I've realized what I want from my own musical journey(s), and that while the gear I collect is a part of that, it's certainly not as big of a deal to me as it once was. It's been almost 6 months since I've bought a pedal, and over a year since I bought one new, which is very strange.

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...so I reckon this sort of stuff is cyclical. Like Cylons. :ph34r:
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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by shoule79 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:10 am

Back when I was playing out regularly my pedals consisted of a tuner, Boss OD set as a boost and a digital delay. No board, no power supply, just a few pedals on the ground and a cranked tube amp.

Flash forward a couple of years and I’m only playing at home, and have a huge board with 20 pedals on it. As cool as that is, it just starts to feel wrong to indulge like that. I don’t need 3 OD’s, 2 fuzzes and 5 modulation pedals. I started playing out again occasionally and voila, my board went down to 4 or 5 pedals.

Pedal collecting is something I do when I have too much time on my hands, and am not playing enough. I’m back into the too many pedals phase right now. I helped a friend out with some recordings last year, and they called for stacked delays, chorus and use of a VB-2. That started me rabbit holing again.

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by StevenO » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:34 am

You know how I posted about not really needing pedals? I bought a ring mod yesterday...

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

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You know how I posted about not really needing pedals? I bought a ring mod yesterday...

:fp:
Which one?!

I :-* Ring modulators!
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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by Singlebladepickup » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:07 am

i love sharin foo wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:05 am
StevenO wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:34 am
You know how I posted about not really needing pedals? I bought a ring mod yesterday...

:fp:
Which one?!

I :-* Ring modulators!
no one needs pedals, but everyone does need a ring modulator.

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by i love sharin foo » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:16 am

Singlebladepickup wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:07 am
i love sharin foo wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:05 am
StevenO wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:34 am
You know how I posted about not really needing pedals? I bought a ring mod yesterday...

:fp:
Which one?!

I :-* Ring modulators!
no one needs pedals, but everyone does need a ring modulator.
I like the way you think!


...but A ring modulator... how about four :shifty:

:fp:
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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by Jaguar018 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:35 pm

^ I am for the most part a ‘set it and forget it’ pedal person; my experiences with ring mod pedals have kept me from buying one.

I spent the day reconfiguring my #1 board. Took a flanger and a delay off. Added a different delay. I also finally cleaned up and reassembled a Rat clone (built by an OSGer), and I also think I got a misfiring fuzz pedal back in order with some Deoxit.

The #1 board is ready to go back to the band practice space. I will leave it alone until then. Sometimes it’s fun to leave your pedals alone for a while so you can ‘rediscover’ them.

#2 board now needs some attention and rearranging. That will be my next little project.

I also put two pedals up for sale on Reverb. I wonder if they will sell.

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by Singlebladepickup » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:45 pm

I just bought my first expression pedal, Moog ep-3, and I can't wait to put it to good use with Randy's Revenge ring mod. It may come in handy with my Mercury 7 as well. I'm gasing for Red Panda Tensor but I'm going to have to wait until my job feels more stable

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by StevenO » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:44 am

i love sharin foo wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:05 am
StevenO wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:34 am
You know how I posted about not really needing pedals? I bought a ring mod yesterday...

:fp:
Which one?!

I :-* Ring modulators!
I bought a Fairfield Circuitry Randy's Revenge. :whistle:

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by somanytoys » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:58 am

Resistance is futile.

I, for one, have done my part. I only ordered an amp during this past week. And new tubes for it. :ph34r: I'll probably be buying a new speaker for it soon, but I can live with it for the moment.

I think my next pedal purchase is going to be a stacked Cali 76 compressor. Once I figure out what I'm going to sell in order to fund it.

Although the Digit looks like it's going to be cool, when it comes out.

It never ends....
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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:34 pm

Those Origin Effects Cali compressors sound awesome. After seeing a few different variants on That Pedal Show, I really wanted one, but couldn't justify the price for a pedal compressor. I ended up with a Greer Amps Lamplighter, which I'm really happy with.
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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by shadowplay » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:53 pm

cestlamort wrote:
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I have surely said this here before but I find the Ibanez UE racks that I use to solve some of the pedalboard malaise. Having two racks that cover most things, I find that I have limited myself and also freed myself from the perpetual striving for the latest greatest true bypass spaceship in a pedal. I still will buy a pedal now and then, especially older reissues, but the effort and planning to incorporate it in the live setup often means that these stay on the sidelines. I figure that if I cannot do it with a compressor, EQ, chorus, flanger, overdrive, phaser and an analog delay, it is my fault. That said, I have an eventide h9 for reverbs and tuner and whatever else may be needed. Anything more requires mental and signal path gymnastics.
I'm a bit like that but with Boss pedals, it's not malaise, it's contentment.

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by Jaguar018 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:38 am

shadowplay wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:53 pm
cestlamort wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:19 am

I have surely said this here before but I find the Ibanez UE racks that I use to solve some of the pedalboard malaise. Having two racks that cover most things, I find that I have limited myself and also freed myself from the perpetual striving for the latest greatest true bypass spaceship in a pedal. I still will buy a pedal now and then, especially older reissues, but the effort and planning to incorporate it in the live setup often means that these stay on the sidelines. I figure that if I cannot do it with a compressor, EQ, chorus, flanger, overdrive, phaser and an analog delay, it is my fault. That said, I have an eventide h9 for reverbs and tuner and whatever else may be needed. Anything more requires mental and signal path gymnastics.
I'm a bit like that but with Boss pedals, it's not malaise, it's contentment.
I know that the combination of functionality and aesthetics weigh heavily in the life of Shadowplay and others. The 'one brand only' approach can be really effective and rewarding-- Boss pedals cover all the bases. Sometimes I wish I could turn off the part of my brain that is always sort of wondering what is around the next bend with certain things. There are just so many cool pedal brands, new and old, and I really like all of the different ways pedals have looked through the years. Like I said earlier, it's essentially my last personal frontier of gear questing and flipping, some of the magic is gone, but venting a little here and getting some different perspectives have helped me pare down a few extra pedals, reshuffle things, and hopefully reinvigorate my playing.

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Re: Pedalboard Malaise

Post by shadowplay » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:01 am

Jaguar018 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:38 am
shadowplay wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:53 pm
cestlamort wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:19 am

I have surely said this here before but I find the Ibanez UE racks that I use to solve some of the pedalboard malaise. Having two racks that cover most things, I find that I have limited myself and also freed myself from the perpetual striving for the latest greatest true bypass spaceship in a pedal. I still will buy a pedal now and then, especially older reissues, but the effort and planning to incorporate it in the live setup often means that these stay on the sidelines. I figure that if I cannot do it with a compressor, EQ, chorus, flanger, overdrive, phaser and an analog delay, it is my fault. That said, I have an eventide h9 for reverbs and tuner and whatever else may be needed. Anything more requires mental and signal path gymnastics.
I'm a bit like that but with Boss pedals, it's not malaise, it's contentment.
I know that the combination of functionality and aesthetics weigh heavily in the life of Shadowplay and others. The 'one brand only' approach can be really effective and rewarding-- Boss pedals cover all the bases. Sometimes I wish I could turn off the part of my brain that is always sort of wondering what is around the next bend with certain things. There are just so many cool pedal brands, new and old, and I really like all of the different ways pedals have looked through the years. Like I said earlier, it's essentially my last personal frontier of gear questing and flipping, some of the magic is gone, but venting a little here and getting some different perspectives have helped me pare down a few extra pedals, reshuffle things, and hopefully reinvigorate my playing.

I totally get that, I had a hotchpotch of other flea market pedals before I could afford Boss but once I got them I was pretty happy. I’ve bought modern pedals but I find a combination of disliking music shops finding pedal demos pure torture and not enjoying selling stuff I’ve found I don’t like keeps me happy with my little coloured bricks.

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