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Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:07 pm
by timtam

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:42 pm
by Embenny
It's a little silly to do a whole demo with dirty tones.

Play that through a clean Twin and we can hear what it's actually doing to the transients and EQ.

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:53 pm
by timtam
Most of the demos so far turn up linked on their Facebook page ...
https://www.facebook.com/keyztone

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:55 pm
by Telliot
Am I the only one who despised every moment of that?

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:01 pm
by timtam
I think it's an interesting technical achievement. But like the Line 6 Variax etc also raises interesting philosophical questions - how much of your love (or hate) for a guitar is due to how it sounds versus other factors, eg how it looks, how it feels, what type of music is typically played on it, who else plays it, how much you paid for it, etc etc ?

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:39 pm
by shadowplay
Telliot wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:55 pm
Am I the only one who despised every moment of that?
For me the Z in the name was enough.

D

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:53 am
by s_mcsleazy
i had so many issues with that video. i need to make a list.

1. the blues lawyer playing was a 100% turn off. but i powered through as long as i could. i feel like if i added up all the times i had to listen to the white man blues, i'd have lost like 6 months of my life. and i get it, blues and metal are 2 of the most common genres of guitar music. hence why andertons have like half a million subs. but yeah, im kinda fed up with this shit around the guitar world. finding non blues/metal demos is really hard and when you do, you always get a comment from some metalhead try hard memelord reading "but does it djent?" or a blooze lawyer fart sniffing, dick cheese eating, condescending asswipe talking about how they'd never play it because it's not like something that was made pre-1980.

2. why do blooze lawyers always do the shit of never demoing a pedal clean? it's always got to be overdriven. because why play clean.... it's not what stevie vince vaughn did. god knows we came to a demo to see what the pedal could do. but i get it, some people are likely to use a pedal with other pedals. but god damn it. show us what the pedal can do by itself.

3. the pedal honestly just sounds like their adding small tone filters to make the guitar sound like X or Y pickup, when it actually does anything to the sound. i was waiting to hear what the p90/filtertron style pickup setting would sound like. the p90 sounded a bit like the idealised sound everyone hopes a p90 sounds like. aka a little cleaner than a classic humbucker. yet it just sounded like a humbucker with an eq pedal filtering out the lows/low-mids. as for the filterstron style sound. nope. sounds nothing like any filtertron guitar i've ever played.

4. this is more a personal complaint but he emulated a marshall dsl40 into a kemper. i get the appeal of the kempers. the last amp you'll ever need. but why emulate a dsl40? i tried a few of them and every time i just thought "people pay money for this" i played with the eq for ages and could not find a single setting that worked for me. yeah, it's good at the rawk but that's kinda about it.

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:11 am
by Embenny
I agree completely about the uselessness of playing a pedal demo through dirt, thus obscuring what it actually does.

And in defense of Kempers...it took me 6 months to find the right profiles for mine. The stock ones are shit. I spent maybe $50 on paid profiles and that was of more value to me than the hundreds that came stock in the $1500 thing. It is THE least plug-and-play amp I have ever used.

However, once I found the profiles that best agree with me, it completely changed the way I approach gear. I have everything from clean blackface Fenders through Voxes, Marshalls and Orange all dialed in now at various levels of gain, and they're more consistently great sounding live and in studio than any of my amps ever were.

So I 100% understand your impression from trying it out. My first couple of weeks with it were a huge letdown. Its strengths are also its weaknesses...it can sound like anything, so its tone is completely dependent on the profiles loaded onto it and how they are tweaked.

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:08 am
by Jaguar018
shadowplay wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:39 pm
Telliot wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:55 pm
Am I the only one who despised every moment of that?
For me the Z in the name was enough.
What'z your problem brozephz?

Re: Keyztone Exchanger Pedal - Make a Les Paul Sound Like a Strat ?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:16 am
by s_mcsleazy
oh dear god. there is another one of these demos. in the thumbnail for the video. p-90 is represented by a jazzmaster :fp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r69RL418DY4

btw, the comments are more of that sexist bullshit like:
Invented by National Wives of Guitar Player Association?? :)
I hope my girlfriend never finds out about this

jesus christ. what's next? handbag jokes? mancave jokes?

i'll give him credit. at least he knows to show off the cleans.