Which Rat....?????

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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by Sauerkraut » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:47 am

I owned a 90s big box vintage reissue, a rat II and a turbo rat at some point in the '00s. I found the big box reissue was the best of those three. Then ten years ago I found a small box one from '86 for €85. I believe the hype now, it beat all the other ones. It's by far the best distortion pedal I ever owned and it's not going anywhere.

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Post by Maggieo » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:21 am

Sauerkraut wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:47 am
I owned a 90s big box vintage reissue, a rat II and a turbo rat at some point in the '00s. I found the big box reissue was the best of those three. Then ten years ago I found a small box one from '86 for €85. I believe the hype now, it beat all the other ones. It's by far the best distortion pedal I ever owned and it's not going anywhere.
I've got one of those '86 small box RATs and I'm am right there with you. :-*

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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by panoramic » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:49 am

Maggieo wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:21 am
Sauerkraut wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:47 am
I owned a 90s big box vintage reissue, a rat II and a turbo rat at some point in the '00s. I found the big box reissue was the best of those three. Then ten years ago I found a small box one from '86 for €85. I believe the hype now, it beat all the other ones. It's by far the best distortion pedal I ever owned and it's not going anywhere.
I've got one of those '86 small box RATs and I'm am right there with you. :-*

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My ancient ProCo RAT distortion pedal. by Maggie Osterberg, on Flickr
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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by s_mcsleazy » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:04 am

i keep wanting to mod a big box rat since there is enough room there.
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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by tdbajus » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:10 pm

budda12ax7 wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:59 am
I have the choice of a FatRat pedal or a Kinnatone modded Rat2 pedal. The FatRat comes in at 150$, the modded Kinnatone at 120$.

I'm leaning towards the FatRat because you can change the chip, but I just don't know.

What say yee??
My FatRat rules. I have Keeley modified one that sits in a box, as well as a vintage one. If you switch out the chip that comes in the pedal for a vintage 308, it's mahvelous.

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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by señormisterioso » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:18 pm

budda12ax7 wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:59 am
I have the choice of a FatRat pedal or a Kinnatone modded Rat2 pedal. The FatRat comes in at 150$, the modded Kinnatone at 120$.

I'm leaning towards the FatRat because you can change the chip, but I just don't know.

What say yee??
Buy both, get rid of the one that doesnt speak or work for you after a week playing it. Sell it back for a bit more to offset the shipping of both to you.

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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by BlueSparkle » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:31 pm

Here's a reasonably well-rounded demo....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub9KjynPa6Y
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Post by Gavanti » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:40 pm

This one for me. I love the way Aaron tunes these, and the clipping options and dual gain range switch make it super versatile:
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Post by Misc.Vision » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:23 pm

My main distortion is a late 80s Turbo Rat and I am never selling it. It’s thick and fuzzy with a fair amount of gain, but it will clean up a bit and be more overdrive like. Great pedal.newer versions are much thinner and raspier.
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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:57 pm

I've had my Arc Effects Soothsayer for a while, and have quite enjoyed it. When I tried it on bass, I'd wished that it had more EQ controls, and looking around for a RAT for my bass rig, I found this:
Magnetic Effects Lonely Robot

Especially since it's a limited release, I grabbed one. I figured I could sell it if I don't dig it, but I have a feeling that I will. Should have it in the next week or so hopefully.
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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by Unicorn Warrior » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:46 pm

Gavanti wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:40 pm
This one for me. I love the way Aaron tunes these, and the clipping options and dual gain range switch make it super versatile:
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I had one of these and I could have had a bad apple, but I was so disappointed. The backstory is that I loved my cheapo rat 2 and used it for a lot of medium gain work. However, i sold because I was “upgrading” to the soothsayer. I got the soothsayer in and it felt like the versatility went out the window. It went from no gain to full on distortion. I tried all the dip switches in the back with different configurations and I couldn’t get it to tame to my taste. Is this pedal just full on heavy all the time in your experience?

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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by elektrovac » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:00 am

This one is a limited edition summer sale pedal from Reuss featuring modified Rat and Klon circuits (switchable to original circuits via internal switches). Handmade in the EU. Limited to 46 pieces. It's a Reuss Swiss Army Knife inside:

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Post by lunaticjaguar » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:56 am

^^^^^
I bought a Utilitarian and it crushes! Im not a RAT fanatic/expert but this has amazing distortion tones.

I've yet to leave the bedroom with it yet but it works really nicely on keyboards as well. And its surprising small which is nice.

Super happy I picked it up, A Rat/Klon 2in1 is really nice combo for sure.

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Post by Gavanti » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:35 am

Unicorn Warrior wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:46 pm
I had one of these and I could have had a bad apple, but I was so disappointed. The backstory is that I loved my cheapo rat 2 and used it for a lot of medium gain work. However, i sold because I was “upgrading” to the soothsayer. I got the soothsayer in and it felt like the versatility went out the window. It went from no gain to full on distortion. I tried all the dip switches in the back with different configurations and I couldn’t get it to tame to my taste. Is this pedal just full on heavy all the time in your experience?
I haven't had that problem with my Soothsayer, though I use the LED mode most of the time. I know that Aaron released custom models with a shifted gain taper, and perhaps that was a response to the concerns you mention. Mine is my main mid-gain option stacked after a Hudson Broadcast . Either the HB or the Soothsayer high gain switches offer heavier distortion with different flavors.

That Reuss Klon/Rat sounds like a really useful box.
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Re: Which Rat....?????

Post by tdbajus » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:59 am

budda12ax7 wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:59 am
I have the choice of a FatRat pedal or a Kinnatone modded Rat2 pedal. The FatRat comes in at 150$, the modded Kinnatone at 120$.

I'm leaning towards the FatRat because you can change the chip, but I just don't know.

What say yee??
I prefer my fat rat to my vintage rat. Both have LM308 chips.

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