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And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:10 pm
by leokula

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:47 pm
by Embenny
Well, they certainly picked an appropriate guy to feature in a video about a new Big Muff RI.

I just kinda wish I could go back in time a couple of decades so I could un-learn most of the things I now know about him and just enjoy his art for what it is.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:18 pm
by Zork
Yep, he's a jerk. But that Muff sounds good.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:23 pm
by Mike S
So this is basically a rerelease of the V5? I am eager to try this.
If it works as advertised, that volume equalization feature on the tone bypass is a brilliant feature. I used to have the Tone Wicker version and have nearly pissed myself after absent-mindedly flipping that tone bypass switch.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:19 am
by fortytwo
Love that they put that tone bypass switch on there.
I once bought an old op-amp BM, and posted happily on a forum, and one poster told me to put that tone in bypass and break off the switch, I didn't get why, until I tried it a few weeks later.. Finally I got why Big Muff where a great pedal.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:42 pm
by preservation
sounds good to me !

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:54 pm
by Embenny
fortytwo wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:19 am
Love that they put that tone bypass switch on there.
I once bought an old op-amp BM, and posted happily on a forum, and one poster told me to put that tone in bypass and break off the switch, I didn't get why, until I tried it a few weeks later.. Finally I got why Big Muff where a great pedal.
That's a very nice upgrade actually, especially with the volmr normalization.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:43 am
by Grandmasterdavid
Approved.
About time they put 2&2 together and realised there is money to be had reissuing it.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:51 am
by MechaBulletBill
So many people are building affordable clones of all the different muffs with better components (jacks/pots/switches at least) than ehx. Why in the world would anybody go to them instead of picking up a clone off eBay or reverb?

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:23 am
by Embenny
MechaBulletBill wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:51 am
So many people are building affordable clones of all the different muffs with better components (jacks/pots/switches at least) than ehx. Why in the world would anybody go to them instead of picking up a clone off eBay or reverb?
So many people are building affordable clones of the different offsets with better components (bridges/pickups/variety of nitro finishes/relics). Why in the world would anyone to go Fender instead of picking up a Danocaster, Revelator, etc?

Some people care about branding.

Image

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:54 am
by MechaBulletBill
I don't think that's a good comparison as you can buy a Fender (or Squier) guitar at basically any price point. If you need a reliable jazzmaster for gigging, you're not stuck with the functionally adequate (captures the sound/appearance to a large degree) VMJM with its crappy switch. Spend a bit more, get the right thing for you. If you wanted a Big Muff that can be relied on or repaired easily, I wouldn't recommend anything that says "EHX" or "sovtek" on it when somebody like fredric (as an example) builds really awesome-sounding pedals with decent parts for a good price.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:06 am
by Embenny
MechaBulletBill wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:54 am
I don't think that's a good comparison as you can buy a Fender (or Squier) guitar at basically any price point. If you need a reliable jazzmaster for gigging, you're not stuck with the functionally adequate (captures the sound/appearance to a large degree) VMJM with its crappy switch. Spend a bit more, get the right thing for you. If you wanted a Big Muff that can be relied on or repaired easily, I wouldn't recommend anything that says "EHX" or "sovtek" on it when somebody like fredric (as an example) builds really awesome-sounding pedals with decent parts for a good price.
The comparison I was making was for USA JMs. AV65 and Custom Shop vs Danocaster, Revelator, etc. Similar or less money for the small-shop builds that offer similar or better quality with similar or better options.

Some people are happy with "good quality and original brand" rather than "even better quality and a less familiar name on it".

EHX is to Muffs what Fender is to Offsets. The originator. And some people (especially those who can't be bothered to do the background research on small shops) are happy to stick with what is familiar.

Especially since a lot of people don't actually know what makes a Muff a Muff, a Tonebender a Tonebender, a Fuzz Face a Fuzz Face, etc. Those people might have a hard time understanding which "Muff-inspired" pedals are literally Muffs and which ones are totally different designs intended to sound similar. There's a lot of attempted secrecy by some pedalmakers, when the reality is that their circuit is 99% (or sometimes 100%) a clone.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:47 am
by BoringPostcards
EHX stuff isn't even expensive at all in the first place, especially their more simple pedals like muffs.

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:50 am
by fortytwo
MechaBulletBill wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:51 am
So many people are building affordable clones of all the different muffs with better components (jacks/pots/switches at least) than ehx. Why in the world would anybody go to them instead of picking up a clone off eBay or reverb?
Resell value

Re: And here it is! Op Amp Big Muff RI

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:49 am
by Maggieo
1. I had no idea that my original BM, from 1980 was an op-amp. I will never forgive my mother for selling it at a garage sale, whilst I was away at college.

2. The BM Op-Amp is, like, eighty bucks? How much are the clones and where could I find one?

3. Now I know why all the newer BMs don't sound right to me. I needs my Op-Amp.