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Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:28 pm
by Shadoweclipse13
Totally worth it. Don't get me wrong, the Catalinbread Echorec sounds good, but with the Boonar, you get much more. You get that same lush rhythmic delay, but you can pick and choose which heads to use, you have an input gain control (for different output pickups), a tape age knob, the option of modern vs vintage sound (not sure of the actual difference as I've only ever had it on modern), trails vs true bypass, AND you also get the spill-over mode which sounds so cool. It's more money, but it's a lot more too.

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:40 am
by JVG
Damn, I was hoping you wouldn't say that! You provide a compelling case for the Boonar!

Certainly tops it w.r.t. features. How about the sound quality of the actual repeats, is it on par with the Echorec?

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:26 am
by Shadoweclipse13
I think it sounds damn good in the repeats, but you tell me ;D
https://youtu.be/Rb3Mg7DaOC4

https://youtu.be/kzgllPfulP4
I think Dan and Mick have the best tone that you an actually get on your own (i.e, realistic).

I really enjoyed my Echorec, but I didn't like how the rotary knob didn't have any notches or clicks when switching between them. Considering that the Echorec has 12 modes, that's a pretty small space to hit dead-on, you know? I just wish the Boonar wasn't as expensive: I'd get one for my bass rig 8)

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:21 am
by Jaguar018
I had that Boonar v1 pedal for a bit. It's cool, but it just didn't 'do it' for me for some reason.

(My problem is a like tap tempo too much. :-[ )

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:31 am
by cestlamort
slight detour: I think the Boss RV-500 does a better RE-201 than the RE-20 (plus: modulation)

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:00 pm
by JVG
Well, after more research (mostly in the form of watching YouTube videos) I'm thinking the Catalinbread and Boonar are equally good sounding.

I'm surprised that the Catalinbread selector switch doesn't have notches to designate the settings - I had assumed it would. The ease of selecting playback head ps on the Boonar is the biggest advantage for me. I'm not sure I'd mess with the modulation that much - I'd probably set it at a fairly low level and leave it there. Similarly with the input level.

So, I'm still no closer to deciding between them. In the meantime I'll check out some of the other options, just to confuse myself further :P

Cheers!
J.

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:48 pm
by Shadoweclipse13
JVG wrote:I'm surprised that the Catalinbread selector switch doesn't have notches to designate the settings - I had assumed it would. The ease of selecting playback head ps on the Boonar is the biggest advantage for me. I'm not sure I'd mess with the modulation that much - I'd probably set it at a fairly low level and leave it there. Similarly with the input level.
You and I think alike. My EQD Space Spiral is the first time I've really loved modulated delay, but I tend to set the Boonar low on the tape age. Also similar in how the switches for the heads were the main deciding factor. If the Echorec had notches for the switch, I probably would've kept it. It did sound good.
JVG wrote:So, I'm still no closer to deciding between them. In the meantime I'll check out some of the other options, just to confuse myself further
Then don't listen to the Echosex from Gurus Amps! Haha. It's easily the best sounding of the 3, BUT only has one tape "head". I bought my Echorec before I knew the Boonar existed and don't regret it at all. If you really want a Binson Echorec pedal, maybe start with the Catalinbread as it's the cheapest priced? You could always resell it and likely not lose much. Or at least find a local shop to try one.

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:27 pm
by s_mcsleazy
so lately i been using a wee analog delay i got for £15 locally and it does that tape echo flutter really well. its called a donner yellow fall

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:00 am
by Shadoweclipse13
s_mcsleazy wrote:so lately i been using a wee analog delay i got for £15 locally and it does that tape echo flutter really well. its called a donner yellow fall
£15??! Holy crap dude! I'll have to look it up when I get off work...

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:15 am
by s_mcsleazy
Shadoweclipse13 wrote:
s_mcsleazy wrote:so lately i been using a wee analog delay i got for £15 locally and it does that tape echo flutter really well. its called a donner yellow fall
£15??! Holy crap dude! I'll have to look it up when I get off work...
i got it used

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:04 am
by JVG
I'm gonna take the advice and go for the Catalinbread. if the rotary switch ends up bugging me too mch, I may jump across to the Boonar at some point.

Thanks for the guidance, chaps.

Cheers!
J.

Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:14 pm
by dc
JVG wrote:I want a pedal that can produce rhythmic tape-style delays.
j.
looks like Robert Keeley just got into the act with the new "Echoes" unit. sounds good!

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Re: Speak to me of tape-style delay pedals

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:43 pm
by leokula
Any delay pedal with a decay or filter setting on the repetition is going to get you pretty close to tape delay, 'cause that's what it is after all, darker repetitions.