Help me order my pedals...

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Help me order my pedals...

Post by JONFROMJERSEY » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:15 am

I do have experience with this and I do have some ideas and I have looked online, and I know it is a matter of "taste," but just out of curiosity, how would you order these pedals on my pedalboard? I want to start with the guitar and end with the amp/DAW. No effects loop.

I won´t put the brand names and models. If you are curious just ask. Thanks fellas.

Tuner pedal
Compressor/Limiter
Boost
Drive
High gain fuzz/distortion
Digital reverb
Digital delay
Phaser
Chorus
Looper
Cabsim pedal

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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by s_mcsleazy » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:34 am

JONFROMJERSEY wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:15 am
I do have experience with this and I do have some ideas and I have looked online, and I know it is a matter of "taste," but just out of curiosity, how would you order these pedals on my pedalboard? I want to start with the guitar and end with the amp/DAW. No effects loop.

I won´t put the brand names and models. If you are curious just ask. Thanks fellas.

Tuner pedal
Compressor/Limiter
Boost
Drive
High gain fuzz/distortion
Digital reverb
Digital delay
Phaser
Chorus
Looper
Cabsim pedal
here is how i would order it

tuner > compressor > boost > drive > distortion/fuzz > phaser > chorus > delay > reverb > looper > cabsim (i dunno much about cab sims but if it was to use them like a preamp then the end is best imho)
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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by JONFROMJERSEY » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:37 am

Thanks! I have been reading in some places that the phaser should come first, even before the compressor. That´s what got me wondering. The cabsim is just in place of my amp when I go into my DAW.

Anyone else?

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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by MC3 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:47 am

Phaser before drive is 100% a personal taste. I like it better, but try it yourself and see what you like more. it's really a matter of how much "swirl" you like

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Post by Futuron » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:31 am

I'd go extremely similar. Almost the same actually. I would probably put the phaser after the compressor. I don't know if I'd put the cabsim at the end or around the distortion (ie before the effects 'loop').

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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by RuffiansFC » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:25 am

I'm a fan of phasors before dirt. depending on the phase pedal and type of dirt, it can be an overwhelming effect. Putting it before can give you that subtle EVH type phase sound at a slower, while giving a vibrato effect at a higher speed. With my current setup, I actually put my phase 90 after my OD and before my Fuzz. When I use a small stone, it's always before because the volume drop is much more noticeable with the dirt sound.

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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by fuzzjunkie » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:33 am

Tuner pedal
Compressor/Limiter
Phaser
Drive
High gain fuzz/distortion*
Chorus
Looper
Digital delay
Digital reverb
Boost
Cabsim pedal


*if this were a low gain germanium fuzz it has to go 1st.

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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by somanytoys » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:01 pm

I would agree with that, although I’ve never tried my phasers that early. I’ll have to try it and see. They can be very overwhelming, so I try to keep them from being boosted more by distortions, but that’s just what I’ve found so far. Which is that almost every pedal should have a mix knob!!

Yes, germanium fuzz has to go first, it took me quite a while to understand that. Years ago, my Keeley Black Glass pedals sounded great by themselves, but when I put them on the board, they sounded smushed and tiny and I couldn’t figure out why. So they kind of sat around unless I pulled them out to play by themselves.

Now that I understand that all of those germanium types need to be first, they all sing. Probably drives my compressor nuts, but too bad.
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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by JONFROMJERSEY » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:16 pm

The high gain pedal is a Carl Martin The Fuzz. I don´t think it´s a germanium fuzz.

To throw in a wildcard pedal, where would you guys put an EHX Microsynth? I sometimes have that on my board, but usually not.

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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by somanytoys » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:58 pm

My initial thought would be early, near the beginning (probably after comp?), for better tracking, and the ability to layer the other effects (down the chain) on top, if you want.

Someone may have a better answer from experience, that’s just my first thought.

Edit: that fuzz is probably silicon. If it was germanium and you didn’t put it first, you could tell...
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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by marqueemoon » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:37 pm

I’m firmly in the “boost after drive” camp, and like my dirt pedals in order from the dirtiest to cleanest.

I have the tuner after the dirt pedals for an instant mute of the noisiest pedals.

I like delay before verb and looper between the two so I can loop a part that has delay on it and it will still live on the same “space” as what I’m playing over it and the reverb tail will smooth things out when looping.

I’d do the cab sim last for the sound of all effects in front of the “amp”.

With that in mind, here’s what I would try first:

Compressor/Limiter
High gain fuzz/distortion
Drive
Boost
Tuner
Phaser
Chorus
Digital delay
Looper
Digital reverb
Cabsim pedal
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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by Shadoweclipse13 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:15 pm

JONFROMJERSEY wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:15 am
The way I would personally order it for my own board would be: [guitar] > tuner > compressor > phaser > boost > high gain fuzz/distortion > drive > chorus > digital delay > digital reverb > looper > cab-sim > [amp/PA/mixing board]

It's all definitely a matter of taste. I might swap the order of the drives depending on the specific drives. I had one compressor that sounded better after the drives, and my current one sounds better before the drives. I like phaser before drives, but I found that if you have phaser and drives on at the same time, the phaser gives a bit of a wah-like sweep. After the drives it would sound more like a typical phaser sound, minus the wah-sounds. If you don't run them together, I think it wouldn't matter as much.

Honestly, I'd just sit down with everything plugged in, and try every combination and order of pedals until it sounds and feels right to you. That's how I did it.

For the Microsynth, I'd probably put it either between the tuner and the compressor (from my order above) or between the compressor and the phaser. That thing will likely need to be early for tracking.
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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by BlueSparkle » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:54 pm

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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by soggy mittens » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:22 am

Compressor/Limiter
Drive
Phaser
Chorus
High gain fuzz/distortion
Tuner pedal
Digital delay
Digital reverb
Boost
Looper
Cabsim pedal
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Re: Help me order my pedals...

Post by JONFROMJERSEY » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:21 am

Here is what I ended up doing. It is pretty good for now at least. I chose to put the Phaser after the looper because I was thinking it might be cool to send the loops through the phaser. Like a slow, long sweep. It´s pretty easy to switch around if I think it sucks.

I know I have shared my board before but I have a bit of GAS and it keeps changing...

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The signal chain is:
1 Boss Tuner (spray painted black, not the WAZA one)
2 Carl Martin Compressor Limiter
3 MF Boost
4 MF Drive
5 Carl Martin The Fuzz
6 MF Chorus
7 Timefactor
8 X4 Looper
9 Subdecay Phaser
10 Neunaber Reverb
11 Mooer Radar Cabsim

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