Converting Fender head to combo

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Re: Converting Fender head to combo

Post by 46346 » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:31 pm

Hi Andy! i love custom Fender combos. as far as weight goes, i think you're right about moving from MDF to pine, and adding two vintage style 10's won't dog you too badly.

the project of adding two 8's to the head looks pretty fun... but it looks like kind of a lousy sounding cabinet in the first place.
it obviously wasn't designed for speakers. maybe i'm wrong, perhaps the right baffle could do it, but it just looks like all guts and no body. i have found that it's really good to have some empty space in the cabinet, and a bonafide speaker baffle board.

i like your idea of something like a Vibrolux Reverb cab. i generally love the open-back sound, too.
and if you go custom, maybe even make it a little taller for more internal space/resonance. ask the cab builder what they think!


i started out playing bass through an Ampeg SVT... when i started gigging guitar on nice stages, i used a Super Reverb.
so, i have a long tradition of using heavy gear, and have often used an amp dolly with good wheels. it could be a simple furniture dolly, or this - my favorite gigging tool, which can carry my amps and pedalboard (which is also stupid heavy): https://handtrucks2go.com/Superlite-Fol ... Truck.html


you might remember my Bassmania custom combo, the 3x10 blonde. one of the sweet things i did right away is put casters on it. while i still use my hand truck to negotiate crumbly parking lots and stairs, it's real dreamy to have casters in the studio for moving amps around.

i worked with JD Newell on the design, and we had a real good back-and-forth over email and on the phone. i was ecstatic to find that my little theory about internal cabinet space brought a rich and spacious low-end to the sound. it was an unusual arrangement for sure, but it worked out nicely. it's endless fun experimenting with different speaker combinations.

here it is with the blackface '66 chassis:

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I am a little torn! Obviously a combo version of the amp will be heavier but really how much heavier would it be? The head by itself is 40 pounds! Jensen speakers weigh almost nothing and the combo would have a pine cab. Where as the head is in a heavy MDF cab. Plus I prefer the sound of open-back combos. BUT! I also see the advantage of using different speaker cabs and breaking up the weight in that way. I've priced it out and it looks like it will cost ~$700 :derp: :-X
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Re: Converting Fender head to combo

Post by parry » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:36 pm

Hey Andy,
you might want to price out a Canadian cab-maker. Give Veteran Guitar Cabs a try. I'm pretty sure Derrick will ship you a cab. He's a super nice guy and his cabinets are beautiful. I've had a few of his "F" style combo cabs and extension cabs and they were all solid. I imagine it'll be cheaper than ordering from the US, paying shipping and then, conversion on top.

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Re: Converting Fender head to combo

Post by somanytoys » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:51 am

I’m actually doing just the opposite of this.

I have a couple of good 10” Weber alnico speakers I had bought (blue pup & silver) that I put into a Laney VC 30 and took out the HH Invader speakers. I could still hook up different amps to the speakers, but it is so damn heavy with the amp in it that I instantly decided against it.

I bought a nice pine 2x10 cabinet (with a removable back piece), and I’ve stained & sealed it and I’m about to put the tolex on. I’ll have to wire it, put on the hardware and load the speakers, but it’s going to be way more satisfying and lighter as a stand-alone cab than in a combo.

I’m going to put the HHs back into the Laney and sell it. It’s a good amp, but I have an AC 15 that I like better. Most of my guitar amps are heads & cabs anyway, and I won’t really miss that heavy beast, even tho it was my first tube amp. Someone with a better back will enjoy the shit out of it.

I’m all for the head & cab setup - the broken up weight distribution and the ability to fit them more easily into car spaces than a bigger combo.
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Re: Converting Fender head to combo

Post by StevenO » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:09 pm

parry wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:36 pm
Hey Andy,
you might want to price out a Canadian cab-maker. Give Veteran Guitar Cabs a try. I'm pretty sure Derrick will ship you a cab. He's a super nice guy and his cabinets are beautiful. I've had a few of his "F" style combo cabs and extension cabs and they were all solid. I imagine it'll be cheaper than ordering from the US, paying shipping and then, conversion on top.

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OH, I might get him to make me a combo cab for my Showman. :ph34r:





I mean, when I have money again... :-/

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Re: Converting Fender head to combo

Post by jaypno » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:01 am

My '68 bandmaster is in a custom 1x12 brown cab and I really like it.

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Re: Converting Fender head to combo

Post by parry » Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:29 am

StevenO wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:09 pm
parry wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:36 pm
Hey Andy,
you might want to price out a Canadian cab-maker. Give Veteran Guitar Cabs a try. I'm pretty sure Derrick will ship you a cab. He's a super nice guy and his cabinets are beautiful. I've had a few of his "F" style combo cabs and extension cabs and they were all solid. I imagine it'll be cheaper than ordering from the US, paying shipping and then, conversion on top.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/category ... 666489775/
OH, I might get him to make me a combo cab for my Showman. :ph34r:





I mean, when I have money again... :-/
To go with that JBL - you know that'd be my favourite amp of yours 8)
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Re: Converting Fender head to combo

Post by StevenO » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:08 am

parry wrote:
Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:29 am
StevenO wrote:
parry wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:36 pm
Hey Andy,
you might want to price out a Canadian cab-maker. Give Veteran Guitar Cabs a try. I'm pretty sure Derrick will ship you a cab. He's a super nice guy and his cabinets are beautiful. I've had a few of his "F" style combo cabs and extension cabs and they were all solid. I imagine it'll be cheaper than ordering from the US, paying shipping and then, conversion on top.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/category ... 666489775/
OH, I might get him to make me a combo cab for my Showman. :ph34r:





I mean, when I have money again... :-/
To go with that JBL - you know that'd be my favourite amp of yours 8)
Yes sir! I've been digging that speaker lately! It sounds awesome with my Dano Baritone... :shifty:

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Re: Converting Fender head to combo

Post by somanytoys » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:07 am

46346 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:31 pm
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cheers!
That looks really cool.
I think I recognize a Weber Silver in there on the top left - what are the other 2 Weber speakers in there?

I probably mentioned it above, but I’m putting a Silver and a Blue Pup in the cab I’m working on, curious to see what you paired the Silver with and how you like them together.
-David

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