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Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 5:56 am
by Gswearengin
Any quick thoughts on the JC-55? One has come up not too far away from me and at a decent price. It’s the JC-77 I want and I should probably hold out, but they don’t come up too often and it would be nice to just go pick it up.

Thanks,

Gary

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:52 am
by eggwheat
Depends..it’s small; 2x8 inch speakers..so it sounds smaller and more boxy than a 77.

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:27 am
by Gswearengin
Yup, and I’m pretty prejudiced against 8’s, whether it’s fair or deserved or not. But it does still pretty much have “the sound,” right?

I only play in the basement, by the way, so I definitely don’t need the extra volume, although I expect that the 10’s would have a fuller, warmer sound. I do feel like the 77 is probably the best all-around compromise/decision.

Thanks,

Gary

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:41 am
by eggwheat
Yeh the chorus circuit is the same design as the 77. The distortion sounds pretty good on it too, better than the 77 iirc.

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:59 am
by Gswearengin
Eggwheat, please tell me it would be a terrible idea to try to acquire the early (no bright switch, green “musical” speakers) JC-160 I’ve seen listed for a while, just to play in my basement? :fp:

It’s twice the amp I want at twice the price, but other than that it’s exactly what I’m after. Good news is it’s far away and the dude says he won’t ship it...that’s keeping me from doing anything stupid.

Oddly enough, I have two JC-160’s to choose from, but can’t find a JC-77 at the moment. Must be patient...

Thanks,

Gary

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 12:45 pm
by cestlamort
Tangential, but an interesting read:
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... e-a-forest

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 1:23 pm
by Gswearengin
Many times...love that article! Hedges says it was a JC-120, but it was a very long time ago, and I can only imagine that the vast majority of the projects he worked on back then involved a JC-something.

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 3:05 pm
by eggwheat
The 160 sounds way better than a 120. The early non bright switch one is the one to get. I prefer the 77 over the 120 too.. it’s probably the 10 inch speakers.

Yeh smith had his JC160 prior to 17 seconds so seems doubtful they hired in a 120 when he had his own 160.

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 1:56 am
by Gswearengin
Yup, I’m just assuming the 160 doesn’t do moderate basement-level volume very well. Right?

(Dumb questions: Is it 2x80 Watts or 4x40 watts, and is the chorus left-right, up-down, or some crazy complex X pattern?)

There’s also an equally old JC-120 at a fair price not far from here. So, maybe after I’ve sold my AC15C1 that isn’t even for sale yet, I’ll check in if it’s still available.

Thanks,

Gary

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 4:15 pm
by Dollywitch
idk, it's a very "solid state" amp so does volume matter that much? though i guess for a really "big" clean tone you do need to push air unless you're using a modelling amp that factors that in.

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:40 pm
by Chip Korea
Not the most exciting tale going but I've literally just picked up a JC-60 60W 1x12, which they started making right in year dot ('75).

I need to double check the year, but the seller reckons he bought it in 1980 second hand. Very tidy with one cm long nick in the tolex, but other than that pretty clean with footswitch (barely looks used) and the original cover. It's got vibrato and chorus and it's got a bright switch.

Re: Did Robert Smith ever actually use a JC-120? (Or...JC-160 vs. 120 vs. 77)

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:27 am
by 601210
Dollywitch wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 4:15 pm
idk, it's a very "solid state" amp so does volume matter that much? though i guess for a really "big" clean tone you do need to push air unless you're using a modelling amp that factors that in.
In my experience when you're using big solid state amps, the limiting factor for low volume is the range of the volume knob. Even on my Princeton Chorus you can only get like a 20 degree turn before you start rattling the windows.