tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

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tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:55 am

has anyone ever tried a tweed style champ circuit with a 12" speaker? i've had this weird urge after repairing my bassman to build a tweed champ circuit but i tend not to be that into smaller speakers and was thinking a 1x12 combo champ. anyone tried something like this?
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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by thisisnickpaige » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:01 am

Slightly off but i use to regularly rock my SF vibrochamp through a 12", or even a 2x12 combo, and that was glorious! Like one of hte best sounds i have ever heard from a guitar in person.

Also rocked a Benson Monarch through a 12" and that sounded killer; it has many of the same qualities one looks for in a tweed style amp.
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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by Paul-T » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:11 am

I have just sourced and refinished a 10 inch cab so I can use my 54 champ with a bigger speaker. I'll get my arse in gear to try it out this weekend and will report back.

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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by Telemnemonics » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:21 pm

A 1x12 5f1 is one of Victoria amps best selling models (Victoria 5112).
I like a 5f1 through a 12 but it's kind of ridiculously huge for essentially a tiny amp.
While many tens sound small, plenty of tens sound big too, so there's no real need to have such a big box to get a bigger sound.
I like the 10" Celestion Gold a lot and don't hear any small speaker sound from it.

I still have the lingering idea that tens sound small though, largely because small cheap amps sound small, and vintage tens tend to sound small.

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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by Trout » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:26 pm

thisisnickpaige wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:01 am
Slightly off but i use to regularly rock my SF vibrochamp through a 12"
I heard this was a great mod too. Think I’ll try it on my SFVC πŸ‘πŸ»
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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by s_mcsleazy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:47 pm

Telemnemonics wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:21 pm
A 1x12 5f1 is one of Victoria amps best selling models (Victoria 5112).
I like a 5f1 through a 12 but it's kind of ridiculously huge for essentially a tiny amp.
While many tens sound small, plenty of tens sound big too, so there's no real need to have such a big box to get a bigger sound.
I like the 10" Celestion Gold a lot and don't hear any small speaker sound from it.

I still have the lingering idea that tens sound small though, largely because small cheap amps sound small, and vintage tens tend to sound small.
i will admit i still have that stigma that 10" speakers can sound small. but part of me also likes having a bigger box. so on the rare ocasion i'll do a small gig with it, it'll be closer to my ears. the joys of being 6ft2
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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by Telemnemonics » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:38 pm

s_mcsleazy wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:47 pm
Telemnemonics wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:21 pm
A 1x12 5f1 is one of Victoria amps best selling models (Victoria 5112).
I like a 5f1 through a 12 but it's kind of ridiculously huge for essentially a tiny amp.
While many tens sound small, plenty of tens sound big too, so there's no real need to have such a big box to get a bigger sound.
I like the 10" Celestion Gold a lot and don't hear any small speaker sound from it.

I still have the lingering idea that tens sound small though, largely because small cheap amps sound small, and vintage tens tend to sound small.
i will admit i still have that stigma that 10" speakers can sound small. but part of me also likes having a bigger box. so on the rare ocasion i'll do a small gig with it, it'll be closer to my ears. the joys of being 6ft2
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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by thisisnickpaige » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:20 pm

Trout wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:26 pm
thisisnickpaige wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:01 am
Slightly off but i use to regularly rock my SF vibrochamp through a 12"
I heard this was a great mod too. Think I’ll try it on my SFVC πŸ‘πŸ»
Highly recommend it. My old silverface through my Twin’s 2x12 was glorious!
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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by jimboyogi » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:02 pm

I built one last year for a buddy of mine. The circuit was 5F1 with a couple of small mods. Cabinet was a tweed Deluxe size, not built by me. Tried a couple of different speakers, best tonal fit was a broken in Weber 12F150 - sounded 'edgier' and a bit more Fendery.

There was plenty of bass with a 12" speaker, I actually cut some bass with a lower value coupling cap in the pre-amp to tame it.

Sounded great, better than I expected. Loud too. I'd recommend building one if you're keen mcsleazy!

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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by horseblanket » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:49 am

I am building something like this right now.
All tests sound great!

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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by muffonrat » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:14 am

Actually i had my tech built an amp for me some time ago which was a champ clone in a head housing.Tried it with many different cabs,the one that sounded best in my ears was a 10'' one.
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Re: tweed champ with a 12" speaker?

Post by marqueemoon » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:09 am

Valvetrain does a 5F2A (tweed Princeton) with a 12” they call the Tall Boy.

I actually like a 12” more for its high end characteristics than for low end. Up until it hits the amp I like brighter sounds (lipstick pickups, JFET boosts, bright reverbs), so an amp that keeps the fizziness under control is helpful.

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