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MechaBulletBill wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:45 pmThat sounds like the soundman expecting guitarists to control their dynamics (which they - and everyone on stage - should be doing). Or a soundman who's deafened himself on guitars.I dunno if it's down to "mixing from the back" (ie. NOT where the audiences' ears are) or if it's a method being taught to training engineers but it seems like a lot of them think good mixing is just overbearing kick/bass right to the back of the room. The flipside is, you can't hear much else wherever you're standing.
Bass is definitely a sticky wicket, unless your space is really well designed and treated. Tons of bass over here, no bass over there. Weeee!!
I just assumed the whole "Big kick/bass" sound is the result of hip-hops influence and popularity.
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In reply to a few posts...
I discovered MBV with You Made Me Realise in 1989/90 when I was 15. I saw them back in the day, but I was too young to see them in the tiny venues they played when I was 13/14.
Loveless is over-rated. Isn't anything and the noisier stuff around that time is great. The early goth and twee stuff is also worth checking out.
They are and especially were an awesome band. But, as someone said, this kind of music is better with a less ambitious set-up and smaller venue.
I discovered MBV with You Made Me Realise in 1989/90 when I was 15. I saw them back in the day, but I was too young to see them in the tiny venues they played when I was 13/14.
Loveless is over-rated. Isn't anything and the noisier stuff around that time is great. The early goth and twee stuff is also worth checking out.
They are and especially were an awesome band. But, as someone said, this kind of music is better with a less ambitious set-up and smaller venue.
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Christ that's gotta be so loud
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This almost reminds me of the saying, “you aren’t stuck in traffic, you are traffic”. All those other old fucks, me included, could have been thinking exactly the same thing about youshadowplay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:16 amOne thing that struck me when attending the early reboot gig was the amount of fucks as old as myself in attendance, I couldn't help wondering where they were when only a 100 folk were showing up and paying a farthing for it too. I can only assume they needed 20 odd years of media and peer validation and retrospection because at the time they very nearly had the press coverage the Smiths got a year or two earlier when it seemed whole music magazines covered very little but.
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Good call. That venue is great at making bands sound their absolute worst. (And that particular show was no exception - maybe only notable for me swearing for the nth time to never see anything there again).mackerelmint wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:32 pmI had the chance a few years back and passed on it, because a zillion amps cranked up all the way in a venue with notoriously bad sound (Showbox SoDo in Seattle, formerly the fenix underground) isn't anything worth spending money on.StevenO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:30 amYeah... I haven't seen them live but that looks like it would sound like shit too.stevejamsecono wrote: ↑Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:41 amUnrelated but that is an upsetting amount of amplifiers on stage. Like, I know that being super loud is the deal but like... sheesh.
I'd love to see them, but it'll have to be in a place that sounds good. Otherwise I may as well just set my money and my hearing on fire.
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I think I read an article that they travel with their own PA and sound guy, or maybe crew of sound guys. Supposedly partially inspired by the Grateful Dead’s ~1974 “Wall Of Sound” PA. Anybody remember where the link to that article is?
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MBV sounded great to me live (Manchester Apollo 3-4 years ago). An awesome wash of sound, I mean, the goal here isn't string definition, right?
I was 10 when Loveless came out, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it
I was 10 when Loveless came out, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it
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Yeah, they sounded incredible at a notoriously bad sounding venue (the now defunct, and unfortunately named) Kool Haus in Toronto.
Saw them there in 2008 and again a few years later. The volume was a lot lower the second time around. Still really loud, but not insane levels.
Saw them there in 2008 and again a few years later. The volume was a lot lower the second time around. Still really loud, but not insane levels.