Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
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Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
I've never owned (or even played) a vintage Fender amp but I scored a great deal on this aggressively modded & re-housed Super Reverb from Reverb. I've also always wanted an amp with a wine on wheat cab.
https://reverb.com/item/7645499-custom- ... -cab-sweet
I'm interested to hear if any of you have thoughts on the 12" & 10" speaker combo? Seems like it could be cool, but I suppose I could change the baffle for a different configuration if it doesn't work out.
https://reverb.com/item/7645499-custom- ... -cab-sweet
I'm interested to hear if any of you have thoughts on the 12" & 10" speaker combo? Seems like it could be cool, but I suppose I could change the baffle for a different configuration if it doesn't work out.
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
That's a pretty SuperReverb you got yourself, they are great amps. That 10/12 combo should sound somewhere between a big British 12 and a american 15, with a nice full bottom and those highs only a 12 can get, but breakup like an old American should. You should be able to get any sort of sound you want from a 10/12 combo with just speaker swaps, they make a good pair but neglected combination.
Historically I have tended to run a 10" extension with 12" combos and vice versa they compliment each other wonderfully.
Historically I have tended to run a 10" extension with 12" combos and vice versa they compliment each other wonderfully.
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
This sounds like the ideal amp I'd want if I could play any volume. 10/12 is probably amazing, and the rehousing looks great
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
Nice looking re-housing.
As a side discussion, I have never understood why people say "up grade" when referring to replacement of the tone caps (with orange drops). Yes the electrolytic caps need replacing every 10, 15 or 20 years, but the tone caps?
As a side discussion, I have never understood why people say "up grade" when referring to replacement of the tone caps (with orange drops). Yes the electrolytic caps need replacing every 10, 15 or 20 years, but the tone caps?
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
The metal film resistors used in the tone stacks and for coupling the gain stages do start leaking dc voltage with time and this throws off the bias of the tubes, so need to be replaced after a few decades. As far as upgrading goes, I think this is largely a myth caused by a some really crap capacitors being used and the hifi/recording crowd talking about the negative effects capacitors can cause. There is a difference in the sound of caps, but you are hard pressed to hear that difference between any good quality audio grade caps. Orange drops are a good example, they are nothing special and far from high end, but almost no one complains.
There is a case against caps when talking reproduction/recording and the design goal is accuracy, but in guitar amps we like color.
Another common cause of blaming the capacitor brand/type is the wide tolerance of especially old caps, +-20% was common and when your cap is defining the frequency response of the amp this can lead to a great difference in sound. Even today tolerances in the sort of caps amps use are quite wide +5%-10% is common and if memory serves is the tolerance of the old faithful orange drop. This difference in value from cap to cap is a very audible effect and can shift the frequency response enough to make one amp sound lifeless and another sound great. I suspect this is a great amout of the change in sound when swapping caps, it is just the values are not the same, much of the difference in sound starts to disappear when you match caps and do a blind tests. Differences are heard, but no one can consistently pick out one cap from another unless their qualities are wildly different.
There is a case against caps when talking reproduction/recording and the design goal is accuracy, but in guitar amps we like color.
Another common cause of blaming the capacitor brand/type is the wide tolerance of especially old caps, +-20% was common and when your cap is defining the frequency response of the amp this can lead to a great difference in sound. Even today tolerances in the sort of caps amps use are quite wide +5%-10% is common and if memory serves is the tolerance of the old faithful orange drop. This difference in value from cap to cap is a very audible effect and can shift the frequency response enough to make one amp sound lifeless and another sound great. I suspect this is a great amout of the change in sound when swapping caps, it is just the values are not the same, much of the difference in sound starts to disappear when you match caps and do a blind tests. Differences are heard, but no one can consistently pick out one cap from another unless their qualities are wildly different.
Logic gates based on billiard-ball computer designs have also been made to operate using live soldier crabs of the species Mictyris guinotae in place of the billiard balls.
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
this looks wonderful! i love the idea of a 10 and 12... i have so many speakers in my amp lab right now, it boggles the mind, the possibilities... but them alnico Webers might actually be my first choice anyway. i'm all for JD Newell's design and quality - he built a custom 3x10 cab for my Bassmania project some years back, and it remains flawless as the years go by.
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
sookwinder wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:30 pmNice looking re-housing.
As a side discussion, I have never understood why people say "up grade" when referring to replacement of the tone caps (with orange drops). Yes the electrolytic caps need replacing every 10, 15 or 20 years, but the tone caps?
aye. the tone caps in my '67/68 SFSR are blue Mallorys and i'm in no hurry to replace them. i'm pretty sure they are not slacking. i'd rather spend time making music than replacing my tone caps.
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
In my various vintage fender amps I have the blue moulded caps, the "brown turd" caps and the smurf coloured lumpy caps... all sound good 40 - 50 years after first being installed. Electrolytic caps replaced as a matter of course.
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
What a Super Reverb.com deal!
*crickets*
That does look amazing though. As overs have said, the 10" + 12" combination works great. Should be a killer amp!
*crickets*
That does look amazing though. As overs have said, the 10" + 12" combination works great. Should be a killer amp!
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Re: Pending NVAD - Rehabbed '68 Super Reverb
Thanks for all the feedback on the 10"+12" speaker combo. I'm really hoping the Weber AlNicos work out. I've almost always played through ceramic speakers and I tend to prefer blackface cleans.
Also, the impromptu discussion on tone caps (particularly the wide tolerance ranges out there) was educational. That's why I love this place.
The amp is shipped now, should get here next week. I'll take pics and give a tone report when it arrives.
Also, the impromptu discussion on tone caps (particularly the wide tolerance ranges out there) was educational. That's why I love this place.
The amp is shipped now, should get here next week. I'll take pics and give a tone report when it arrives.