Re: Fender 68 Reissue Amplifiers Stock Speakers = Bad
Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:01 am
Cool to know. Are they louder?andy wrote:The neomag is about ten pounds heavier than the jensen. Still, they are lighter than the original JBLs.
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Cool to know. Are they louder?andy wrote:The neomag is about ten pounds heavier than the jensen. Still, they are lighter than the original JBLs.
The 68 Customs seem really odd to me. Like, they've revoiced the 65RI amps and kept trem/reverb, and paired them with a quality and suitable celestion... but the vintage-voiced channel ends up being less useful because of the tonal mismatch with the speaker, despite being the cleaner channel. THEN the big F comes out with the Bassbreakers, a line of british voiced amps (afaik).Arthon wrote:I had the same problem with my new 68 Vibrolux Reverb (1 month old). The speakers didn't sound very good in the vintage channel. The Custom channel was great with my JM, but the breakup happened too soon.
I changed the speakers for Eminence (1 Ragin Cajun and 1 Cooperhead). The Ragin Cajun sound very good in my Princeton Reverb. Now, the vintage channel sound very good, but the Custom Channel seems too muddy. Maybe the Custom Channel is more suit to british style speakers...
eggwheat wrote:
Thanks...yeh the sound of the original speakers in the '79 is what I would go for...do you think they were alnico or ceramic in a '79? Because the price difference is huge..I'm sure they were round magnets without the square bit on the back. I actually have a pair of EVM 10M's here but it would probably make the amp insanely heavy..
Still till I find a problem I'll stick with stock.
I don't think it's fair to say that putting greenbacks in the 68customs was an afterthought, because they do pair nicely with the custom channel. Just not the vintage one.StevenO wrote:I don't know why, but so many amp companies seem to consider speakers to be an afterthought. Almost like a guitar company treating pickups like an afterthought. It just doesn't make sense to me.
That's why I've got mixed up. When I've discussed these amps before, it's got a speaker "like a greenback". Nevermind, just your standard eejit over here.eggwheat wrote:To be fair the Ten 30 is very similar to the G10 greenback.
Yeah, that's what I came to think. I would be hard to have a speaker that is equally good with the vintage and the custom channel. The Custom seems more suit to british speaker; and the Vintage more suit to fendery speaker.MechaBulletBill wrote:The 68 Customs seem really odd to me. Like, they've revoiced the 65RI amps and kept trem/reverb, and paired them with a quality and suitable celestion... but the vintage-voiced channel ends up being less useful because of the tonal mismatch with the speaker, despite being the cleaner channel.
I was just meaning in general. Though I'm not personally a fan of Celestion speakers in Fender amps, I actually don't mind these amps and how they sound. I like them better than the '65 RI. I'd probably end up changing out the speaker regardless, though. The Weber speakers just destroy for Blackface sound.MechaBulletBill wrote:I don't think it's fair to say that putting greenbacks in the 68customs was an afterthought, because they do pair nicely with the custom channel. Just not the vintage one.StevenO wrote:I don't know why, but so many amp companies seem to consider speakers to be an afterthought. Almost like a guitar company treating pickups like an afterthought. It just doesn't make sense to me.
Well, I have a PRRI '65 with a Celestion greenback and I love it! It's darker then a normal PRRI, but for home clean playing, it's really good. It's not what I would use if I wanted to play my PRRI in a band and cut throught the mix.JCH519 wrote:I'm not a fan of Celestion speakers in general either other than the Gold & Blue. In my opinion those speakers seem to make the amp sound exactly like it should sound. A friend of mine has an AC30 with Celestion Blues and it sounds very very good. I had played AC30s before and thought they sounded a bit dark/sterile, but the one with Blues sounded so alive to me and it just had its stock tubes.